Design/Meetings/2023-03-23

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    Minutes

    Present: Eyal, Gabby, Heiko
    Comments: Regina, Ilmari, Seth, Waleed, Miguel, Mike, Jan-Marek
    
    Tickets/Topics
    
     * No UI for flipping the column order of a table
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153995
       + duplicate to bug 116948 (UNO command to switch left/right columns
         resp. upper/lower rows) and bug 99457 (Ability to move rows, columns
         using one hand and preserving all existing content) - which is
         not the request here
       + assuming a table is done in western with column headers from left
         to right the request is to easily flip the whole table to RTL
         so the last column would be the first etc.
       + could be somehow combined to autoformat/table style but is actually
         not changing attributes on the cell level
       + similar function is known  in Calc as transpose to flip rows/columns
       + Calc offers an option to flip the whole sheet from LTR to RTL
       + ideally we have a state on Draw/Impress as well as Writer tables
         as known from Calc Sheet > Right-To-Left that switches the whole table;
         if this requires modifications to ODF a simple UNO command doing the
         flipping is acceptable too
       + implementing as macro sounds also interesting but since it is likely
         a more frequently used feature that deserves a dedicated function
       => do it
    
     * When selecting a cell or table row/column, "Position & Size"
       regards entire table
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151338
       + need for precise cell size is duplicate of bug 151337
         (Can't change table row height without selecting the row)
         but request is actually about disabling the function unless
         the whole table is selected (Ilmari)
       + rename to "Position and Size of Table" or hide when in cell
         context (Eyal)
       + P&S is a generic function also relevant for ordinary shapes (Heiko)
       + keep the current state (Gabby)
       + change P&S to "P&S of Shape" or Object -> wouldn't solve
         anything (Eyal)
       + it is an issue and we should leave it open (Eyal)
       => follow Eyal's suggestion and rename summary to "Change label of P&S
          depending on context"
    
     * Use of "numbering" instead of "bullets"/"bulleting" for bulleted list
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153986
       + Bullets & Numbering > Position/Customize "number*" for
         unordered types?
       + easy to understand, no need to change (Seth)
       + drop "numbering" (Gabby, Heiko), use "Listing" (Waleed)
       + use "number/bullet alignment" (Eyal)
       => drop "numbering", easyhack
    
     * Show small preview in Position & Size dialog
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154026
       + total slide is not show and position/size in relation is unclear (Eyal)
       + entering exact values comes likely with knowing the slide/page (Heiko)
       + when zoomed in you don't know the slide size; and in the slide preview
         it's not clear what object is selected (Eyal)
       + having a preview is always nice and convenient (Gabby)
       => do it; low priority
    
     * Export as PDF only exports text selected (if text selected)
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152304
       + revise bug 54908 or make the selection more clear
       + using selection is the default and convenience feature (Miguel)
       + printing a selection is rarely the default (Telesto #139164 c10)
       + default to whole document (Mike, Jmux #139164 c13)
       + use a dialog (Mike #54908 c26)
         + always clicking yes in such a dialog is annoying in case a selection
           is done intentionally
       + use a highlighting color for automatically selected options like
         showing "Selection" in red (Heiko)
         + has some drawbacks too
       + add an extra command for "Export Selection to PDF" which starts
         both the same dialog (Eyal)
         + would be only for PDF not other export/print command
         + leave print as it is
         + could also be a command in the context menu
         + or just rename the command(s) if a selection is active
       + probability of accidentally having something selected vs. intentionally
         is low; and we have a proper feedback with the preview (Gabby)
         + disagree, in particular objects on other pages are easily
           selected (Eyal)
       + add a checkbox "[x] Ask for confirmation" or "[x] Ask for confirmation
         during the session" to suppress confirmation in special scenarios (Heiko)
         + feels like we cannot decide (Eyal)
       + make a duplicate (Heiko)
         + some users might consider Export different to Print (Eyal)
       => make a duplicate anyway and comment on the ticket