Design/Meetings/2017-07-27

Link
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08417.html

Minutes
Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design/UX Meeting: 2017-Jul-27 From: Heiko Tietze  Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:05:59 +0200 To: LibO Design  Present: Tomaz, Eric, Heiko

Organization

+ no response to the question last week + will ask people directly what we can improve + Bubli: criticizing the missing technical background of proposals + Samuel: lunch time around 13, preference is 9-11 or 14-16 + Tomaz/Eric: it's okay but vacation time during summer + Eric: maybe better advertise the meeting to the community
 * Participation in the design meeting declined

+ preview at https://survey.documentfoundation.org/783768 + How many extensions did you install? / Do you install LibreOffice extensions on your system? (Andreas) + Do you install the local help? (Heiko) + Did you read a tutorial/book/...? (Heiko) + Office suits: distinguish between online/offline (e.g. +Office 365) (Eric) + Use of mobile version (Tomaz)
 * New survey planned about LibreOffice Aspects

+ thumbs up
 * How about a survey on Calc, Impress, or Writer with open questions like for Draw?

Tickets

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88742 + "Attributes" has no advantage; how about Inkscape's 'Document Properties' => rename "Style and Formatting" into "Styles" => keep "Properties" (too much fuss) + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40487/
 * Change sidebar deck label 'Properties' to 'Formatting' (cont'd)

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93244 + good idea (Heiko), bad idea (Jay) + introduce a user setting or remember the last setting (Heiko) + perhaps make it dependent on the actual screen dimension (Eric) + run a quick poll (Eric) => postpone the decision + https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/Gv86jqr9qyf
 * Switch default to 16:9 in Impress/Draw

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88542 + well-designed to fit the total app width; only room for a few pixels + possible solutions: + dynamic tooltip: maybe not easy (Tomaz) + splitter: also not a quick fix (Tomaz) => WFM because of workaround in the sidebar
 * Width of font name field at Writer's standard toolbar

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87592 + Master Slide (Heiko, Sophie) + code pointers are easy to find (xml for menu, ui for sidebar) (Tomaz) => change into Master Slide + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/40485/
 * Terminology for master slides in Impress

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93087 + white-space is not bad (Heiko) => new layouts would be nice
 * New layout in Impress

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89530 + 'Refresh All' under Data > Pivot Table would be easy to implement (Tomaz) + Not done automatically because operation may take some seconds (Tomaz) + But Excel has an option to enable automatic updates (Tomaz) + Better solution than refreshing on data change is to update when the user enters the pivot sheet (Heiko) + Duration is not known (no progress bar possible) and cannot get interrupted (Tomaz) + Users asked for macro to refresh all tables (Eric) + Macros wouldn't know if the pivot table needs an update (Tomaz) + Not the best solution; users can't know if a table is not up-to-date and needs refresh => go with a macro, meaning WFM => new ticket with a good solution
 * Pivot table, refresh all

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