Design/Meetings/2015-05-06

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-05-06-tc4148686.html

Minutes
May 15, 2015; 12:17pm Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-05-06
 * Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias


 * Completed Action Items:

+ Jay: Create a bug report about problem with parent icon set links.txt entries not appearing in child icon sets https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90790 + Kendy: agree with Marketing - if the app icons should have the status of logos + Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128) + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay) + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794 + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar + Kendy: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is， more complete
 * Pending Action Items:
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Removed direct formatting context menu entries from comment objects (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86606 + Writer's image context menu reorganization completed (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87185 + Writer's table context menu reorganization completed (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86619 + Reorder the entries in the numbering drop down (Bubli) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69316

+ improvements in the icons (Matthias, Adolfo) + sifr fallbacks to breeze, not the other way around (Jay) + implement crop via mouse in Writer, Calc and Impress (Philippe Jung)

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90937 + https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bt2Gr0JslOLL86xb-bCl76mji5AhHT_8VI-5Wp5Qyq0/edit?usp=sharing + code for this is here: + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/sc/source/core/data/stlpool.cxx#n275 + would be great to update (Kendy) + Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding + it is a bit thin, so feel free to hack at it. + need some crafting on the Whiteboard as to scope of 5.0 branding proposals, e.g.         + visual design (color scheme, icons) + StartCenter specifics (changes to layout--yes/no--) + placment or size of thumbnail views/template views etc.   + already some responses to posts to Users and Design MLs + needed: splash, startcenter graphics, about + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Color_Table + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements + reached to some people we know (Heiko, Jay) AI     + put together the requirements + share with Heiko + Jay (Kendy) + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit + should add information how to create new widgets (Heiko) + generally UI guidelines should be kept simple to avoid the stagation that more detailed documents get (Ken) + 1st part published, lots of feedback + put the 1st part to a wikipage (Heiko) + sounds good (Kendy) + move current https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines to temp + Applications icons: logos or icons? + Marketing team view: Applications icons are just icons. + Starcenter is a branded part of LibreOffice (Heiko) + conclusion: Up to the icon theme designers - if they want to theme those icons in         the start center in their theme, they can + NB: Still there is the bug that wrong theme is used sometimes! - must be fixed for 5.0 + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
 * Calc default styles
 * Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)
 * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing + few new pushed - thanks! + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + More icons were pushed by Andreas (Jay) + It should fallback directly to Galaxy rather than (Jay) http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/vcl/source/gdi/impimagetree.cxx#n110 + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing + presented the ~10 at ESC + query for all the NeedsDevEal was cleaned up   + will present the UI related ones in the ESC weekly (Kendy) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&list_id=533111&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=needsDevEval%20TopicUi&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr + still Jay will go through them to remove topicUI from those that do not look like Easy Hacks (Jay) + 12pm UTC + Continue with last friday's insert chart discussion as it hasnt been completed + List of possible future topics https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing + Topic: Style guide - continued https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit + like, where we want to rely on other guidelines, and what we want to design / decide ourselves
 * needsDevEval (Jay)
 * Next Friday's design session (Jay)