Design/Meetings/2017-03-30

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2017-Mar-30-tc4211396.html

Minutes
Mar 30, 2017; 6:36am Heiko Tietze-2 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-30

+++++ MEETING TIME IS 13:00 CEST / 11am UTC DURING THE SUMMER AND BEGINNING FROM NEXT WEEK +++++

Present: Eric, Thibaut, Jay, Heiko, Kendy, Tomaz

* New meeting time as DST begins? + Thursday 13:00 CEST / 11am UTC: voted +4/-1 => New meeting time is 11am UTC * LibOCon 27.-29. Sep Rome + We will have a UX room + do a design session to a specific topic? + mockup seesion (Jay) + Bibliography (first choice) + 3D dialog + Custom shapes + Share results from UE testting at Nantes (Eric) + also talk about redesign of features

* LibO mascot + Introduce a unique identification beyond the logo that can be modified within constraints since our logo is fix and must not be changed (idea started at the BoD) + list of mascots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascot + Java: Duke https://kenai.com/projects/duke/pages/Home + Prototype for the idea (logo is the coffee icon, duke added later as the mascot) + SuSE: chameleon "geeko" + Mozilla: lizard, godzilla, tyrannosaurus (FF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox#Trademark_and_logo) + Linux: tux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux + KDE: konqi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konqi + Krita: kiki https://krita.org/en/kiki/ + GNU: GNU head https://www.gnu.org/graphics/agnuhead.en.html + mising a kitten under all the animals, like grumpy cat (Heiko)

+ Metaphors + worldwide product, make sure it works for all (Thibaut) + freedom, documents, open (Jay) + pideon / another bird? + or a more symbolic thing + superhero + crazy combination of superhero and animal (Thibaut) + something with edges to align with the logo (Heiko) + Process: internally ask for input on ML, later involve designers, e.g. OSD group + better we have some time to be creative (Thibaut)

* Make LibreOffice design unique (Thibaut) + Ticket: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106756 + Previously mentioned in as 'Application Theme' GSoC project https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J_aogLuQThqhvT0R2em27Vpew-SLAQgpH5TbNTgXPZM/edit + would be the solution to swtich from themed to "default" + generic theme update makes much sense, but that needs dev work as it is hard-coded (kendy) (SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen ./soffice to enable     or SAL_NO_NWF=1 to still use the detected vclplugin but no native theming) + only way to introduce a new generic design is to make it working in parallel first + themes might be text based on Gtk (Jay); Gtk3 uses CSS for theming (Tomaz) + someone with development skills needs to look into the topic + wish to have all themes via CSS, or the like (Heiko)

* Color + New default color palette https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538 + survey done, analyzed and comment included into the final layout + https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/173uYSPE1TPaZdCL997YyQLllRt2xBIV4oD5M3Bjo7yU + finalization planned for the weekend + We have 1 grey scale, 1 basic colors, 3 light, and 4 dark now -> should we change to      8 rows by default (and have 1/1/3/3)? (Jay) + No idea why it's bad (Thibaut) + tonal.soc has 10 rows so better add one (1/1/4/4)? + having less colors is good was commented in the survey => go with 10 rows (https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/35902/) + Extension to export the custom palette done and blogged about + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/03/29/libreoffice-extension-export-custom-palette/