Design/Meetings/2017-11-29

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https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08539.html

Minutes
Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting Nov/29 2017 From: Heiko Tietze  Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:16:07 +0100 To: LibO Design 

Present: Csongor, Thomas, Jay, Stuart, Heiko

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98211 + Start better than left/right, Default is too unspecified (Thomas) + Better than "default" is start and end as Mozilla does (see also c15) (Stuart) + rename to start (Csongor) + default may be an issue (Stuart) + Start in CJK as well (Jay) -> yes (Stuart) + CJK uses default right now (Jay) + consistentcy across modules is important, but this simple lable change should be made without worrying about matcheing all at this time (Stuart) + Adolfo's comment c22 taken into account but for simplicity disagreed => do it
 * Change string from 'Left' to 'Default' or 'Start' or code 'Right' entry

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113941 + twitter poll - https://mobile.twitter.com/liboDesign/status/932556988571181057 + 125 votes + 37% - Sans (Head) Serif (Text) = WFM + 31% - Sans (Head) Sans (Text) = Green + 21% - Serif (Head) Sans (Text) + 11% - Serif (Head) Serif (Text) + But, any trouble with existing templates (Stuart), + only two templates for Writer (Jay) + WFM 2, Green 1, undecided 2 => WFM
 * Should we change the default fonts used in Writer

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113925 + single/double click consistency (Thomas) + known behavior (Mike K) + white part (inside margins) should open "tabs" + gray part (outside margins) go to "border" + or open page dialog's border tab(Stuart) + clicking the thumbs go to "indentation" (Csongor) + double clicking drop the tab; bug? (Stuart) => full acceptance
 * Double click on ruler in Write: Open Indents or Tab

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79803 + e.g. 'Spreadsheets' instead of 'All documents' in case of Calc + pro: Jay, Heiko, Csongor, Thomas (cross-platform issues) + con: Jean-Baptiste (c3,c5), Cor + unclear: Maxim (c10, macOS issue), Stuart + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94177 + suggestion to have two new entries 'ODF Files' and 'Common Files' + people don't know what "ODF files" mean (Thomas) + users opening zip files or binaries in Writer is a potential security issue + new type "All LibreOffice files" (Csongor) + all libo files = every file that can be opened including png, csv, xls for example + adds other confusions but is a minimal improvement + module specific <> target specific; e.g. insert image in Writer (Stuart) + .uno:OpenFromWriter should show text documents, .uno:Open should show all files (Thomas) => 4:3 for the modificiation: Writer will list 'all documents' by default instead of 'all files' (including binaries), Calc shows 'all spreadsheets' etc.
 * Module specific file types at open dialog