Design/Meetings/2015-03-18

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-03-18-td4143673.html

Minutes
Mar 18, 2015; 2:39pm Jan Holesovsky Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-03-18 + David for the first time - welcome! :-)
 * Present: David, Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias


 * Completed Action Items:

+ Not using google docs for the design discussions [turned out to be a misunderstanding - OK with that for now]

+ Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001 + Stuart: Change the default to single page + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or "Multiple page view" - would be great to get that to gerrit AI: Stuart -- figure it out and get it posted. + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648 + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128) + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay) + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794 + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
 * Pending Action Items:
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Auto/No Fill now has a button (Adolfo) + new breeze icons integrated (Andreas Kainz/Jay) + many icons optimized (Andrew Dent) + Sifr + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + http://arsenalrace.at/analytics/ak/libreoffice/ + Andreas will push to gerrit + pushed the changes sent via mail (Kendy)Kainz + looked like there were only few new icons - some got lost somewhere? (Kendy) + will ping Andreas (Heiko) + Breeze pushed today - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/14891/ (Jay) + conflict with Kendy's pushing :-) - fixed the links.txt (Kendy)   + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for hidpi    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89608    + updated the design session document, finalized        + one button less in the UI, will update the latest mockup    + topic closed    + follow-up concerns        + changing size of the dialog (Bjoern B.)        + there are 2 good solutions; will be decided what's best (Heiko)    + will publish with proposals for the solution of the concerns (Heiko)        + can include more people this way indeed (Kendy) AI  + will publish the blogpost (Heiko)    + 1pm UTC    + this week's theme: Insert Special Character split/group button and dialog      https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PxkIpkzgWF1cX9oQmBhjiTBhUXvUEqbz06Bn4hzbF54/edit?usp=sharing
 * Icon Updates / Issues
 * Table of Contents (Heiko/Jay)
 * CMIS / online documents mockup (Heiko/Jay)
 * Friday's design session (Jay/Kendy)
 * Finished proposals

+ Change tracking sidebar proposal + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87695 + CMIS / Online repositories + do we have a central place for collecting the finished ones? + Design Session Folder - https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6qJrVIa0SAlcFV0Q2lWMmdUcW8&usp=sharing + something that we can links from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CoreHacks + CoreHacks - something like EasyHacks for the more advanced tasks (that need some mentoring) + the bug number in the bugzilla should be the entry point (Heiko) + to avoid confusion what is the 'ultimate' source + consensus: sounds good + Disable object, image and text toolbars - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676 + Move view tabs to left slide sidebar - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87672 + Jay will create the mockups + Add media playback features to sidebar, so its toolbar can be disabled - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794 + Kendy needs to check implementation of the sliders + Slightly reduce the default sizes of the right and left sidebars + Do not hide slide pane in handout and slide sorter views + showing makes no sense with handout and sorter ? (Cor) + no real blockers to go ahead
 * Uncluttering Impress default view and stop toolbars from poping up and hiding (Jay)
 * Uncluttering the Draw default view (Jay)

+ What an uncluttered Draw could look like - http://i.imgur.com/M1k9DHT.png + some additional buttons might still be reduced (Jay) + showed it to youtube Draw tutorial maker and he thought it was good - https://twitter.com/MichaelTFCG/status/564859639347818496 + idea is to make it more like the usual drawing applications + remove the pages previews on the left + just one toolbar row - to get more vertical space + sounds good to me (Kendy) + will go through the usage stats to see what can be further tweaked + biggest problem: need to convert the list of pages to a sidebar item + so that it is still possible to see the pages AI     + let's create a CoreHack for that (Kendy) + part of the GSoC in the worst case
 * Last week's discussions that need a resolution:

+ "Update style" in style context menu in styles and formatting https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89824 + non-controversial, could become EasyHack + Make it possible to copy style options to another style https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89827 + Jay filed a similar bug - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85131 + a picture would help in this bug report (Kendy) + Updating character style to match selection does not remove local formatting https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89829 + inconsistency (Mattias) + needs a document showing the behavior (Kendy) + Style overrides could have a way to unset local changes (restore default?) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89826 + not sure how to visualize that (Mattias) + eg. some kind of [x] next to them that would remove that (Jay) + is the sidebar state saved in some .xcu? (Jay) + sould be, if you have problems finding that, poke me please (Kendy)
 * Code pointer needed