Design/Meetings/2015-07-08

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-07-08-tc4154109.html

Minutes
Jul 10, 2015; 3:39am Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-07-08
 * Present: Heiko, Jay, Marek, Matthias, Kendy, Rishabh, Steve, Stuart
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Breeze updates (Andreas) + .ui dialogs improvements (Adolfo) + Improvements in thumbnailing (Maxim) + Fix selecting location in Properties dialog (Szymon) + Sifr updates (Matthias) + Tango updates (Adolfo) + Redraw the last used color after theme change (Maxim) + Make "printer was modified" status persistent (Bubli) + Fix search in Expert Configuration dialog (Mihály) + Rework start center accelerators (Stuart) + Don't attempt to show commontaskbar in Draw (Maxim) + September 23-25, 2015, Aarhus, Denmark + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/call-for-papers/ + would be great to have you all there :-) - please submit a paper!   + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)          https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing        + Papamatti has pushed new icons (Jay)    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing        + Andreas has pushed some changes (Jay)    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions        + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing    + Wiki page setup https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Templates_for_LibreOffice_5.0 + 7 templates submitted so far + went through the templates & rated them + added notes & recommendations, Jay will follow-up with the authors + going fine (was facing some problesm, but fine now) + finished the slide background section + improving the selection analyzer for Writer + polishing is ongoing in the Visual Identity group + implementation of the new colors for the start center done (Kendy) + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit + context menus + questions about limitations of the amount of items - seems like a misunderstanding + sidebar + concerns about the fixed size (non-resizability) + position of tabs (at the top) - does not work when closed + dialogs (Heiko) + no good guideline for sidebar vs. tabs in the dialogs (what is better when) + navigation in the sidebar - is that too much efort though? + do the users in fact want changes there? + like, the text properties now have 9 tabs! + seems people like redesigns in general + should icons be used? + resizability + if well designed, no need to resize vs. resize gives freedom to the user + not much interested in redesign it seems though + let's not change without user's complains + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92317 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90374 + concerned that we contstrain the sidebar in the HIG too much (Stuart) + when it is too much in the development + and before its purpose is settled down + like: codifying if it should have fixed size or resizable is a bit premature (Stuart) + example: navigator or gallery are more dialogs (Stuart) + navigator is actually a floating windows (Jay) + sidebar - actually a hybrid between a toolbar and dialog (Stuart) + some consistency issue, but overall sidebar fairly consistent UI as is     and how it continues to develop (Stuart) + becomes flexible & rich (Stuart) + there were additional ideas (like the accordion) (Heiko) + eg. page size is not necessary in the Sidebar (Heiko) + a cut needs to be found (Heiko) + sidebar should provide access to the most used features (Heiko)
 * LibreOffice Conference
 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
 * Templates Competition (Jay)
 * GSoC (Rishabh)
 * LibreOffice 5.0 splash + start center + about box new theme (Kendy)
 * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 * Sidebar constrained by content and resizable (Heiko/Jay/Stuart)

+ discussion will continue at a future meeting (Jay) + Friday session this week + not happening this week as heiko's busy + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00 UTC + List of possible future topics + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing + Steve wants the sidebar "configuration menu" icon gone: "it's useless confusing, thus user unfriendly,         creates frustration and clutters the UI." https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824 + spell dialog auto-closing - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79312 + fix committed to master for writer and impress/draw (excluding calc) (Marek) + 'Go to Page' dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83054 + will attempt to work on this (Marek)
 * Next Friday's design session (Jay)
 * Easy hacks for Marek (Jay)