User talk:Óvári

Hi GerryT,

Do you know if LibreOffice takes advantage of "multicore hardware"? How Office 2010 Takes Advantage of PC Hardware "Office 2010 also takes advantage of multicore hardware in a number of ways, adding multithreaded activity to Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. For instance, all these application use multi-threading to open and save documents faster..." "PowerPoint features such as transitions and animations take advantage of graphics hardware acceleration..." "One of the biggest changes is in how Excel takes advantage of multi-core and multithread hardware. Excel 2007 took advantage of multi-core systems for a few commands, such as executing Monte Carlo simulations using multiple threads, and that made a big difference for those commands. With Excel 2010, the program supports more parallel functions, including sorting in a pivot table. But more interestingly, it now uses multithreaded calculations for such everyday things as changing row height and auto-fitting data within cells; and loading and saving spreadsheets. But there's still work do be done, according to Charlie Ellis, Excel Lead Program manager."

Thanks

Hi GerryT,

FYI you may like to CC into https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96192 and join the discussion.

Cheers

Óvári

Hi GerryT,

When should the Feature Comparison page be updated from MS Office 2013 to MS Office 2016?

Additions could come from: http://www.itworld.com/article/3003375/software/10-microsoft-office-2016-features-youll-love.html

Thank you

Óvári

Hi GerryT,

Please remove or change any updates to your page that you do not like.

Thank you

Óvári

Hi Óvári,

thanks.

I have read about Mozilla's plans. I hope this will not come soon and it is also not clear what Thunderbird is going to do. Let's see.

I will incorporate your suggestions in the Thunderbird ideas page.

-- GerryT

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Hi GerryT,

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On your page Feature Comparison: Mozilla Thunderbird - Microsoft Outlook, your Important Thunderbird add-ons may not work in future versions of Thunderbird as Mozilla is depreciating XPCOM- and XUL-based add-ons

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On your page Ideas for the integration of Thunderbird with LibreOffice, under the section entitled General options for an email/PIM client in LibreOffice, additional options for LibreOffice may include:

(6) Transferring Thunderbird to The Document Foundation.

(7) “LibreOffice PIM” developed by The Document Foundation. Forked from Thunderbird. In collaboration with Thunderbird's current programmers. Perhaps similar to how OpenOffice was forked into LibreOffice.

(8) “LibreOffice PIM Project” from Thunderbird similar to The Document Liberation Project under the umbrella of The Document Foundation.

Options 6, 7 and 8 are based on the view of R Kent James, chair of the Thunderbird Council that The Document Foundation is a model of how Thunderbird should be operating in the future as he wrote at Surprises, claws and various articles on August 5, 2015 at 12:05 am “One of my personal goals is to get Thunderbird to join more broadly in the open source world and movement, rather than being isolated as a little brother of Firefox in a Mozilla cocoon. I’ve actually spent quite a bit of time studying how TDF operates, as LibreOffice is in many ways a model for how we should be functioning in the future. We would be very open to cooperating with LibreOffice.”

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It is up to you if you decide to incorporate any of these comments above into your pages.

Thank you

Óvári

Hi GerryT,

I have never placed a listing on Facebook, Twitter etc as I do not have social media accounts.

[http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en/speaker/charles-h.-schulz Charles-H. Schulz] was very kind to introduce Kent James to TDF board.

You might be interested in the article entitled "Is Mozilla an Open Source Project?".

Congratulations with Ideas for the integration of Thunderbird with LibreOffice.

Thank you

Óvári

Hi Óvári,

so far, I haven't added it anywhere. I was waiting for Charles' response to Kent's comment.

Feel free to add it to the social media for further discussion. And maybe Ideas for the integration of Thunderbird with LibreOffice. I would wait with the other wiki pages and see what Charles and Kent discuss.

Thanks, GerryT (GT)

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Hi GerryT,

Congratulations on your comments in the discussion with a positive note from R Kent James, Chair, Thunderbird Council stating "Feel free to contact me if you have any interest in discussing how Thunderbird could work with TDF and LibreOffice."

Are links going to be placed on: Feature Comparison: LibreOffice - Microsoft Office Feature Comparison: Mozilla Thunderbird - Microsoft Outlook Ideas for the integration of Thunderbird with LibreOffice TDF Twitter page TDF Identi.ca page TDF Facebook page

I trust you have sent this to people at the TDF and LibreOffice who can enable better cooperation/integration of LibreOffice and Thunderbird. Whilst not exhaustive here is a short list: TDF Contact Us with press and media contacts [mailto:info@documentfoundation.org TDF Board of Directors email]

Thank you

Óvári

Hi Óvári,

this discussion here (in the comments below the article) on Thunderbird and LibreOffice might be interesting for you: http://standardsandfreedom.net/index.php/2015/08/01/surprises-claws-and-various-articles/

Thanks, GerryT (GT)

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Hi Óvári,

thanks for your answer. If you set the bugs as WONTFIX you state that the bug is not relevant and/or will never be fixed for some reason. See here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Status/RESOLVED#WONTFIX

If you have set the WONTFIX flag, but think that the bug is relevant, then this was a mistake.

Thanks, GerryT

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Hi GerryT,

I changed the status of the bugs to WONTFIX; however, it could be a mistake on my behalf. Fixing the bugs that have the status WONTFIX will reduce the likelihood of #REF! in a formula. Any implementation that reduces errors (eg #REF!, circular references, etc) could be seen as a positive. This is a useful feature in Excel. Hence the bugs with WONTFIX were listed in the comparison table as Excel does do what those bugs state. However, I will leave it up to your judgement whether or not to return the bug listings to the feature comparison.

Thank you

Óvári

Hi Óvári,

I had a look at the three entries "Formulae with entire columns or entire rows", "Default keyboard and/or mouse shortcuts" and "Reduces invalid formula references (#REF!)" in the comparison table

I cleaned the bug entries for those issues: Some bug entries were marked as FIXED or WONTFIX, so I removed them. Also in "Default keyboard and/or mouse shortcuts", there was a bug report which - I think - was meant for "Formulae with entire columns or entire rows". So it was at the wrong place.

Please see the changes here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office#Spreadsheet_applications:_LibreOffice_Calc_vs._Microsoft_Excel Feel free to change them back, if you think the changes were not appropriate.

Thanks, GerryT. --- Hi Óvári,

thanks a lot. I have seen that you continued working on the Thunderbird - Outlook table. Great to see.

This table here might contain some helpful information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients

Thanks, GerryT.

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Hi Óvári,

please see the new page: Feature_Comparison:_Mozilla_Thunderbird_-_Microsoft_Outlook and the related new changes on Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office. I think you will like this new Thunderbird-Outlook comparison page. This is a start, please feel free to improve it.

I am not a developer, but if you like you can approach the developers at the developers mailing list or (better) via the IRC channel, where many usually hang out. Maybe they are willing to officially promote Thunderbird or even develop better integration into LibreOffice.

Thanks, GerryT.

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Hi GerryT,

I understand this to be how to send you a reply; if not, please advise how to send you a reply.

Thank you for your kind words about your improvements you have made to the Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office wiki page.

1. When is discussion, between Mozilla Thunderbird and either the developer team or the Document Foundation, likely to happen to enable LibreOffice (LO) to recommend or include Thunderbird?

2. The discussion may enable LO to: a. recommend Mozilla Thunderbird; b. include a LO Thunderbird personal information manager (PIM) component with email, chat (WebRTC), contacts, calendar, tasks; or c. recommend/include some other PIM.

By LO recommending/including a PIM, the transition to a free, open-source, cross-platform (Linux, Apple Mac, Windows, Android), professional-grade, standards-based office productivity suite for schools, governments, businesses and homes may be simplified.

Thank you

Óvári

P.S. A suggested tag line for the marketing of the LO 5.0 series is "Today is the day. The best is yet to come." 

Hi Óvári, thanks for helping improving the Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office wiki page.

I just updated the entire page to LO 5.0, made some clean-ups and other improvements. I made some smaller changes (mostly wording) in your edits. The only larger change which I have made was the removal of the section on Thunderbird <-> MS Outlook. I removed it, because LibreOffice simply does not have an email/PIM program and Thunderbird is not officially recommended by neither the developer team nor the DocumentFoundation. Hence, it cannot go into this table comparing LO with MSO.

Cheers, -- GerryT (talk) 2015-07-04T18:36:55 (UTC)