Design/Meetings/2015-06-03

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-06-03-td4150580.html

Minutes
Jun 04, 2015; 12:19pm Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-06-03 + Jay: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is more complete (The styles are quite different and this looks poor in Mac. Adolfo) + Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128) + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay) + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794 + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar + Lower half of slide transition tab reorganized (Rishabh) + Shrink the properties sidebar sections in Calc (Rishabh) + Writer menubar reorganized (Jay) + Insert row/col before/after in Calc (Philippe) + Hide common task toolbar in master slide view (Philippe) + Tango updates (Adolfo, Jay) + Formatting, Impress and Draw toolbar improvements (Jay) + Sifr icons now fall back on breeze icons as breeze is more complete + The styles are quite different and this looks poor in Mac. (Adolfo) + unfortunately it is so with any fallback (Jay) + and breeze is closer than any other fallback (Jay) + the best would be to finish the Sifr theme :-) - designers appreciated! (Kendy)       + breeze on mac - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=116255        + looks good! (Heiko, Jay, Kendy)            + let's switch to that for the RC - and if there are complaints, revert (Kendy)            + some general concerns about breeze, but in this case it seems to look & work well (Heiko)            + conclusion: let's switch to that now on macOS, and if there's push-back, revert    + some icons have white instead of black on Windows (Jay)        + bugreport: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91432    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing        + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons (Adolfo)
 * Present: Heiko, Kendy, Jay, Steve
 * Completed Action Items:
 * Pending Action Items:
 * UI changes integrated the last week:
 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
 * UX patches to approve backporting into 5.0 by (Kendy/Jay)

+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16030 (Bubli) + pushed + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16037 (Jay) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16032 + pushed + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16061/ (Phillipe) + 2 more reviews needed (Bubli? Jay?) + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16007 (Phillipe) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16034 + Waiting for ESC
 * Track changes sidebar (Jay)

+ Can we set a smaller size for the 4 buttons, so that the tab's minimum size can be smaller + asked Rishab fix this (Jay) + About the action column icons, it would be good to center it rather than having it aligned to the right and a formatting change has a plus sign, which should be changed to a 'T' icon like from textbox. Any possibility to have a tooltip above these action icons. + at the design session, did we decide to use text in the end, or not? (Kendy) + http://user-prompt.com/tracking-changes-with-libreoffice/ - use icons in the end + sw/source/ui/shells/shells.src IMG_REDLINE_INSERTED .. IMG_REDLINE_AUTOFMT + the actual icons are in icon-themes/galaxy/sw/res/redline_* + will ask Rishab to do the centering (Jay) + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=5f363ce8bc563f64271744026cf0e16830cf9b06 + this implemented the icons (to help to locate where to hack) + found some problems, will file bugs (Heiko) + happy to point Rishab to the code if he can fix that (Kendy) + add the buttons (Show, Start, Comment) (Heiko) + should be a matter of the .ui file change only (Kendy) + Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding + results: + contributions from 5 people: those listed on the page + one sent by mail + would be good to unify the color with what is on the webpage (Jay) + conclusion: send a mail to the visual identity committee what should be chosen, and how to proceed + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781 + user survey about organization possible, known as card sorting (Heiko) + but hard to do with too many items (Heiko) + will not work out of the box (Heiko) + did similar think the last year for KDE system settings (Heiko) + the change is pushed now in master + reasoning: to be able to see how it compares to the old layout (Jay) + easier to see it in action than to take tens of screenshots (Jay) + the question: if (or how much) of that still put to 5.0? + we should do the change, it's 5.0, big changes are anticipated (Heiko) + can see the people's reactions, and revert in the worst case + Impress is done already, Calc too (Jay) + but not pushed yet + Jay to join the ESC tomorrow, Sophie from the l10n is there too, let's discuss there (Kendy)
 * Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)
 * Reorganized menu bar (Jay)