QA/Meetings/2014/April 07

=Prep=

= Agenda + Minutes =

 Minutes:

Content from the meeting itself ("the minutes") will be displayed in blue boxes like this.

Before we Start
A few minutes before we officially start the call, we'll try to have a few people on hand to help assist newbies set up their teleconferencing gear, get things muted, and log on to all of our communication channels:
 * QA/IRC
 * Etherpad - QA Pad
 * Talkyoo or Google Hangout

Start
Put start time and attendees list in the table

IRC Minutes

 * Sophie moving the Bug Hunting session:
 * So shall we push this on next week? I'll replace/remove this page
 * https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.2.3

 colonelqubit: QA Chat today is in IRC (right here!)  in about 10-15 minutes - 02:35:19 PM - - arnaud_versini has joined the room - 02:35:34 PM - Reisi007: colonelqubit: i do know Björn is not here. What about making it to Questions and answers. Need some update from me or are we finished? colonelqubit: Reisi007: no word from joel...might be busy lawyering Reisi007: Ok Reisi007: colonelqubit: latest possible start time for me is now colonelqubit: Okay, 3 is usually the cut-off for a meeting, so let's just chat for a little bit * colonelqubit gives Reisi007 an attendance hat

Bugzilla Migration Update

colonelqubit: So: Norbert has done some great work with Bugzilla. Current phase is testing out our local install and making sure that the data migrates properly * Reisi007 is giving colonelqubit "Chief in the office" hat colonelqubit: :-) Reisi007: WOW - progress colonelqubit: Oh, yes - arnaud_v1 has joined the room colonelqubit: Tollef has magically reappeared on the scene, and has gotten us a db dump colonelqubit: (it's basically like Christmas for us...) Reisi007: :-D black magic  * Reisi007 agrees colonelqubit: We'll still want to do some further testing and want to script the migration process, including all of the setup of the VM for bugzilla  * colonelqubit realizes that shm_get is here -- Anything you'd like to add? colonelqubit: :-) * shm_get is there not actively looking ... so need to chatch up what was said :-) colonelqubit: Just a quick summary of where we are w/Bugzilla Reisi007: colonelqubit: bibi gui has a dropdownlist for start and end range... colonelqubit: cool colonelqubit: brb shm_get: oh... so yeah testing the reloaded bugzilla to detect anomalies if any... that is from the functional part.. from the admn/infra part.. I need to script thiings and practice teh re-install/migration from scratch.. as there is quite a bit of manual poking and oops, I'm not sure I know what I'm doing 'steps' involved still - jmadero has joined the room jmadero: colonelqubit: ping Reisi007: Wow jmadero: call open jmadero: we doing this? Reisi007: Good that we habe it soon Reisi007: jmadero: irc tiday jmadero: okay then let me go into library instead jmadero: I'll be back - sun makes it hard to read screen colonelqubit: lol colonelqubit: need a Pixel Qi screen! colonelqubit: shm_get: Thanks for the hard work! I'll look at the data, etc.. after this chat arnaud_versini: jmadero: Hello arnaud_versini: jmadero: Not on law stuff ? colonelqubit: shm_get: have a goal about when you'd like to see the migration take place? - jmadero has left the room - jmadero has joined the room jmadero: okay sorry about that jmadero: hi all * colonelqubit waves shm_get: colonelqubit not yet... I really want to nail the 're-install from scratch as this will also serve as disaster recovery process... and if we do not do it now, I'm afraid like most things it will be put on the back burner :-) colonelqubit: shm_get: I agree colonelqubit: jmadero: (just talking about strategy + timeline for bugzilla migration) * Reisi007 too jmadero: sure jmadero: since I missed part of the conversation I'll refrain from commenting ;-) colonelqubit: shm_get: when we feel like we're getting closer, we should look at our schedules and try to plan a good time when we'll have most of us on solid ground (i.e. not flying) for the switchover shm_get: It depend on a lot of factor.. but I would count a couple of month probably... maybe sooner, but.. real-life can get in the way.. and there are unknown unknown (to quote an infamous Secretary of Defence :-) ) jmadero: do we have ETA? like ideal vs. realistic? jmadero: we technically have the data already right? jmadero: through the script colonelqubit: jmadero: we have a dump from a ...week ago, shm_get? jmadero: that seems worse than the updates Bjoern is getting jmadero: his is up to date every hour jmadero: running on big Bertha colonelqubit: yeah, but it's a data dump colonelqubit: sorry, db dump shm_get: colonelqubit and yes.. once I feel confident that we nailed the technical aspect.. we will announce and advertise a migration planning.. so that everybody is aware of when/what/who.. and also because our user will _have_ to reset their password.. so we need to communicate way in advance colonelqubit: shm_get: great!

> OpenID for Bugzilla

jmadero: so I know shm_get isn't a fan of adding features right away jmadero: but - having openID out of the gate I think would be nice jmadero: like "you can reset your password OR use openID" jmadero: no clue if that's feasible colonelqubit: IIRC, it's not implemented? shm_get: jmadero no, because there is no such things as openid support.. the suppsoed plugin are just vapourware * Reisi007 has a look jmadero: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:OpenID_Auth_Plugin jmadero: no bueno? Reisi007: https://github.com/jalcine/bugzilla-openid jmadero: what is vapourware? jmadero: sounds like something you get high on Reisi007: Is the same shm_get: and the backup is a couple of week old.. but we will get a fresh one when we migrate.. in fact tollef will shutdown fdo bugzilla during the migration to make sure the backup is perfect * colonelqubit. o O (...because Tollef has the Power...) Reisi007: shm_get: sounds perfect shm_get: jmadero vapourware is software that is hyped but is really nothing but wind (wind-pipe) Reisi007: And close LibreOffice bug creation? / delete project? jmadero: Reisi007: yes jmadero: hopefully with a redirect

> OpenID: Collaborate on implementation?

colonelqubit: Suggestion: If we are looking at a roadmap of maybe 2 months, we could investigate what it would take to implement OpenID support (not necessarily impossible, if we convince other projects to fundraise w/us...) Reisi007: :-D shm_get: Reisi007 yep... once the migration is a sucess.. (we want to keep the door open for a rollback if we run into a major snag jmadero: colonelqubit: so if this is really desired - I know Alex said having our own OpenID setup would be "low priority" jmadero: so if it's dependent on that - I think no go for 2 month timeline Reisi007: shm_get: okay :-) colonelqubit: jmadero: most people are happy w/a launchpad OpenID colonelqubit: (even the ones that don't want to get a Facebook or GMail account) jmadero: isn't there some complaint about launchpad. . .? jmadero: I forget what it is colonelqubit: if you don't like Canonical, I guess jmadero: lol jmadero: but if that's manageable - I'm all for having it - I really think that would be a big + for users shm_get: colonelqubit in any case: the migration will occurs using vanilla bugzilla version.. I do not want to compound problems and difficulties.. once we have our own instance, under our control, we can start thinking about deploying 'patch' and plugin in production.. but colonelqubit: Anyhow, to stay on track here, I think investigating OpenID support for Bugzilla in parallel would be healthy, but shouldn't be a blocker on migration jmadero: okay - well IMHO it seems like we're on different pages jmadero: I like the idea jmadero: shm_get: is against shm_get: jmadero I am _not_ agaisnt openid at all jmadero: against having it on deployment jmadero: that's what I meant jmadero: like you'd prefer baby steps ;-) shm_get: jmadero it jsut does not exist today for bugzilla... colonelqubit: I think migration is of significant importance to us, so I vote for no OpenID at migration date jmadero: okay - that's fine jmadero: so migration is moving forward jmadero: okay colonelqubit: UNLESS we pull off some super-feat and really believe it's rock-solid shm_get: jmadero yes I do not want to deploy new feature _and_ migrate at the same time.. but even If I wanted there is NO openid support to deploy anyway jmadero: okay jmadero: I got it the first time ;-) colonelqubit: (read: if shm_get says yes) jmadero: but we can move on colonelqubit: Yep

T-Shirt Update

colonelqubit: Update on the T-shirts saga: I sent a replacement shirt to Hackert colonelqubit: crossed my fingers, did a little dance. With any luck, he'll get it shm_get: note: IF there is a viable openid plugin, that has been tested and working.. we _can_ 1/ migrate 2/ quickly check that we are fine so that we can release tolleft and fdo and then immediately deploy that plugin... iow if the pluign fail to deploy we still have a working migrated system Reisi007: :-)

Merch Store

Reisi007: Do we have libo merchandise up btw?? colonelqubit: Not yet, no colonelqubit: I thought about it, and with all the travelling I do, I wouldn't be able to mange that stuff out of my place jmadero: so no big box stored at your place? colonelqubit: jmadero: That's not the problem, I just want to make sure that we ship promptly jmadero: okay colonelqubit: e.g. if I'm gone for a week for OSCON colonelqubit: but we can talk about it jmadero: sure - I'd like to have that done by the summer - we can do it together as I'll have a lot more time

Impress Remote

colonelqubit: I want to bring up Impress Remotes -- Sophie has volunteered to write up some MozTrap tests for us colonelqubit: kudos to her jmadero: yeah - I just sent an email about that jmadero: we'll see what Florian E says about it colonelqubit: k colonelqubit: Our good friend Florian R. (who some of you may have heard of...:-) has volunteered to help with testing on both Android and iOS. We'll get him squared away w/bluetooth adapter for testing jmadero: what in the world is a mini micro adapter * colonelqubit. o O (....very small? ...) jmadero: but just plugs into a normal USB port? colonelqubit: Right jmadero: allrighty Reisi007: Right Reisi007: I can test wlan now colonelqubit: jmadero: can be difficult to remove, sometimes colonelqubit: Question: On FDO, the component is listed as "Android Impress Remote" -- should we generalize that to "Impress Remote" Reisi007: But that is not what m meeks thinks users wants Reisi007: colonelqubit: +1 impress remote jmadero: I'll update now arnaud_versini: jmadero: Micro is used on phone, mini on camera I think colonelqubit: Reisi007: what did michael the bold say? jmadero: that wlan isn't what's desired jmadero: that it's mostly bluetooth jmadero: I believe colonelqubit: ah Reisi007: Bluetooth is desired over wlan colonelqubit: fair enough -- easier for me, don't have to poke holes in my firewall rules Reisi007: Was some time ago jmadero: what about Impress Remote (Android/macOS) jmadero: for component jmadero: or just Impress Remote colonelqubit: just Impress Remote colonelqubit: we have someone working on a FireFox OS version ...I think Reisi007: Just jmadero: done jmadero: cron job tonight will update BSA colonelqubit: nice jmadero: cloph_away: just to confirm - we have a cron job setup for BSA right? colonelqubit: that seems a little dangerous? cloph_away: jmadero: will have soon :-) so far I keep doing it :-) jmadero: kk - there's a new version and now component has changed jmadero: oh crap will component change break BSA? colonelqubit: no, I meant that if we have a cron job for it, we might not remember to test after we push a change colonelqubit: Or maybe I misunderstand: Is the cron job for pulling git, or just for updating from FDO? colonelqubit: cloph_away: ^^ colonelqubit: Anyhow, good that we have that updated now. jmadero: updating from FDO I believe colonelqubit: good, that's a much safer script to run via cron

UNCONFIRMED Bug Count

colonelqubit: UNCONFIRMED Bugs: 1054 colonelqubit: hmm....broke above 1000 again colonelqubit: should we try to organize a time to chew through a couple hundred of them?

> Organize Bug-Triaging session

jmadero: colonelqubit: my hope is to do this in May - I'll try to organize something but has to wait for that week colonelqubit: awesome jmadero: worst case - just 3-4 of us can spend 4 hours Reisi007: Sophie asked for it next week isn't it jmadero: over a beer jmadero: I can't do next week - cloph_away is now known as cloph jmadero: so if that's the case I'm out of the running jmadero: I'll be basically offline from next Wed. - May 2

BugHunting session for 4.2.3

colonelqubit: Reisi007: Sophie was talking about the BugHunting session for 4.2.3 jmadero: which means bug count should go up further colonelqubit: she said: > So shall we push this on next week? I'll replace/remove this page > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.2.3 jmadero: I mean realistically for the experienced triagers - 3-5 per hour easy Reisi007: Oh, okay... Bug Squash June :-P jmadero: probably more jmadero: especially if we look at enhancements - which IMHO we should just get through super fast jmadero: looks valid - mark as NEW colonelqubit: right jmadero: and make sure to include some note about enhancement so no promise jmadero: etc... etc... colonelqubit: jmadero is nicer than some triagers :-) jmadero: lol or I'm meaner jmadero: I don't want to get the email in 6 months jmadero: "YOU MARKED AS NEW WHY HASN'T IT BEEN IMPLEMENTED!!!!" colonelqubit: heh jmadero: "my idea is WONDERFUL, DO IT NOW" colonelqubit: Anyone been following the 'Outliner for LO' bug(s) ? jmadero: outliner? colonelqubit: in MS-Word, you can have an outline view in a pane on the left-hand side colonelqubit: powerful tool for people who have a long documents with lots of content/chapters/etc... jmadero: oh - that's cool colonelqubit: has been a desired feature for a while - MechtiIde has disconnected (Read error: Operation timed out) jmadero: yeah I can't follow individual wishlist items ;-) jmadero: toooo many colonelqubit: Some bug commenters are helpful, providing info and etc.. colonelqubit: One guy said basically "Why hasn't this been implement? I'm going to start getting really vocal on all of the websites about it" jmadero: awesome - I want to respond "have fun" jmadero: buuuut in my current position jmadero: I should refrain jmadero: I have to bite my tongue a lot more these days colonelqubit: Another commenter was trying to talk him down, pointing out that maybe the devs didn't see exactly what he was contributing to the project, etc.. colonelqubit: was a good diplomat

Bugzilla Time-saving Improvements

colonelqubit: So this brings up a good point: We often have to deal with tough users in Bugzilla - Papamatti has joined the room colonelqubit: I'm really hoping that when we have our own bugzilla we can implement some of the features we've talked about previously colonelqubit: but also think about features to help us and the devs read bug comments jmadero: colonelqubit: yeah it's on the wish list - to be able to mark useful comments, vs. pointless ones jmadero: and somehow highlight jmadero: + of course mark the one with the best description colonelqubit: for example: we could put some flair on bugzilla users based on category: Devs, QA team, etc.. - agh_ has disconnected (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) jmadero: yeah - I think that conversation can wait until we have bugzilla up colonelqubit: jmadero: sure, actively flagging/upvoting is good, but something automatic is nice because it doesn't take our time jmadero: yeah for sure jmadero: so highlight automatically people with special priv. colonelqubit: right jmadero: the chosen ones colonelqubit: And look: If one of us sees someone who is being really helpful, we can bump them up jmadero: also - this would allow reports reported by devs to be automatically set to NEW colonelqubit: indeed jmadero: also maybe build in BSA type "tree" within Bugzilla itself jmadero: with an option to skip for those who have priv. jmadero: so it automatically triages jmadero: in terms of priority and severity jmadero: lots of nifty things that can be done jmadero: I love making to do lists for you colonelqubit jmadero: it makes my shitty days 100x better colonelqubit: heh

Bibisect-GUI

colonelqubit: Reisi007: update on bibisect-gui? I'm installing the package now jmadero: I haven't tried to install again - I couldn't get it to work in Linux Reisi007: Okay, just a tiny update - implemented jmadero feature request jmadero: but an update was done so maybe fixed colonelqubit: pancakes? Reisi007: Mono is needed, so it's best to install the monodevelop ide Reisi007: And start the skript Reisi007: Ubuntu has a bug with a font (jmadero's error) jmadero: Reisi007: I removed the font and had same problem Reisi007: Should be fixed with 14.04 jmadero: it wouldn't load jmadero: but I'll try again when I have time Reisi007: ?? Okay... TODO: Investigate over easter Reisi007: The build is the very same on linux and win and it is working on Win, so it has to be your setup :-P jmadero: didn't easter pass already.... colonelqubit: ACTION: Florian R. will make bibisect-gui work on Ubuntu....with Joel jmadero: not over easter though colonelqubit: jmadero: Next sunday, I think jmadero: May/june jmadero: May - August my hours are going down to 1/3 what they are now so that's when I can get pounded with requests colonelqubit: jmadero: don't worry, no due-date on that action item colonelqubit: ACTION: Robinson will talk to other orgs that deploy Bugzilla about implementing (funding?) OpenID support

Last Call

colonelqubit: Anyone else have QA-related topics? jmadero: new RC is coming - please try to install jmadero: play with it colonelqubit: (I have one that's more general LO to bring up, before we end) jmadero: that's it from my side colonelqubit: Reisi007: anything? Reisi007: One thing

SI-GUI

Reisi007: i updated si- gui - online version update colonelqubit: online version? Reisi007: Everyone could put/update branches Reisi007: Or latest Apache OO version Reisi007: Online update (branch-xx daily) colonelqubit: ah, ok Reisi007: No software update needed (any more??) Reisi007: Maybe one l10n and done ;-) colonelqubit: cool! Reisi007: :-) Reisi007: Volunteers to update the update document? Reisi007: (Do not have the link ATM) colonelqubit: do you need translation help, or? colonelqubit: Reisi007: ^^ Reisi007: Nope, update the branch- urls twice a year Reisi007: I will forget colonelqubit: Hmm... can we make a note in the Release process somewhere to email you? colonelqubit: (assuming that would be frequent enough) Reisi007: When a new branch is tagged (eg 4.3) Reisi007: That would be enough Reisi007: (Or when you switch a win buildbot to a new branch) colonelqubit: ah, ok colonelqubit: Okay, couple things from me

LibreOffice US: New IRC channel #libreoffice-us

colonelqubit: First: new IRC channel #libreoffice -us for US-related chatter, outreach, marketing, etc... colonelqubit: (#libreoffice-us) colonelqubit: Hopefully Joel and I will be able to recruit some new talent from the US to join the QA Team :-)

LibreOffice Swag - for confs

colonelqubit: Second, I'm investigating LibreOffice swag (stickers, brochures, etc... stuff to hand-out) colonelqubit: Reisi007: Were you at CeBIT? Reisi007: Nope Reisi007: Only my program colonelqubit colonelqubit: :-) colonelqubit: It's like your child...wandering, unattended all over the world colonelqubit: Reisi007: Any suggestions re: swag to hand-out at conferences? The basics are stickers, brochures... colonelqubit: I might investigate pens, 'cause those are a handy item to hold on to jmadero: yeah pens - cheap things are good jmadero: I really like the idea of USB's jmadero: but more expensive colonelqubit: jmadero: what do you think about pens that say "When the power goes out, use this analog edition of LibreOffice" jmadero: lol clever colonelqubit: "Download the electronic version online -- it never runs out of ink!"  - Papamatti has disconnected (Quit: Papamatti) jmadero: lol yeah that's awesome colonelqubit: "Inside every LibreOffice pen lives a tiny Joren. He will break your shit." jmadero: "report said "broken shit" to www.bugs.documentfoundation.org" colonelqubit: If we ever build a tool to do fuzz-testing on libreoffice, we should definitely name it 'joren' colonelqubit: Whenever it crashes the binary, it can send out alerts like "Joren wins again!" "Joren is in your treehouse, breaking your collectable plates!" colonelqubit: "Joren laughs at you" colonelqubit: Okay, that's all I have colonelqubit: jmadero, Reisi007: Anything else? jmadero: none here

ODF Badges from FSF

colonelqubit: Ran across some nice ODF badges here: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/spread jmadero: lol colonelqubit: jmadero: here's my first draft of badges for the DocLiberation site:  jmadero: where would you put those? jmadero: nice these are awesome colonelqubit: The Excel...lent one is so corny jmadero: oh yes jmadero: I thought the same - arnaud_v1 has disconnected (Quit: arnaud_v1) colonelqubit: Okay, thanks for the meeting! jmadero: thanks colonelqubit jmadero: next meeting I won't be able to attend jmadero: after that - for the length of the summer jmadero: much more attentive :-D

The State of QA
Including any Opening Discussion


 * T-shirts update:
 * Kiva Cards?
 * More T-shirts delivered to:
 * Still en-route to:
 * Hackert, Mandal


 * New Meeting Time?
 * ACTION: Joel will set up a doodle for a new QA Meeting time


 * Any update on possible Hackfest in the US (School in Pennsylvania) ?



weekly status
* https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html

UNCONFIRMED Bugs
UNCONFIRMED bug count:
 * March 21st: 942
 * Today: 1054
 * Difference: +112



Regression watch (Bjoern)
* https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/report.cgi?x_axis_field=bug_severity&y_axis_field=component&z_axis_field=&query_format=report-table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=LibreOffice&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&resolution=---&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=regression%2C+&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&emailtype3=substring&email3=&chfieldvalue=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&j_top=AND&f1=version&o1=regexp&v1=^4.2&format=table&action=wrap



Topics for ESC?
Does anyone have any topics/concerns that I should bring to the Engineering Steering Committee (ESC)? (Robinson)



Need_Advice Bugs
Need_Advice bugs



Pending Items

 * ACTION: Investigate auto-updates for regular users and/or for QA/testing purposes (Robinson)
 * ACTION Review BibiGUI -- any Windows/C# volunteer dev (Bjoern)

PENDING ITEM: MozTrap Localization

 * ACTION: MozTrap translation (GUI and tests) continues to be high-priority for QA (Needs someone to shepherd)

To review:
 * Other project who might want to work on translating GUI w/us?



PENDING ITEM: Bugzilla Migration etc.

 * ACTION: Robinson/Cloph will talk to Tollef about next steps in Bugzilla migration
 * Waiting to hear back from Tollef
 * ACTION: Joel/Alex working to give Robinson a VM in which to test Bugzilla ourselves
 * This will speed-up the 2nd half of migration and after-migration tasks

Older:
 * ACTION: Get Tollef to activate voting on FDO (merged item)
 * ACTION: Get Tollef to add BOLD statement to each FDO mail sent out to not reply via mail (merged item)
 * ACTION: Get Tollef to clarify 'version' label in Bugzilla (merged item)
 * ACTION: Will track the filed bug and wait to hear updates (re: Bold statement on FDO mail)



PENDING ITEM: Bibisect Repositories

 * ACTION: Make combined bibisect repo available for testing (Robinson) + Provide better docs
 * ACTION: Provide documentation for mac bibisect on wiki (Robinson)

To review:
 * Robinson working on bibisect docs


 * IDEA: Add bibisect into regular Developer workflow
 * IDEA: Create graph/tool to show which builds contain a given commit



PENDING ITEM: GUI for Bibisect

 * ACTION: Punt on implementation until after we have bibisect repos up and running (All)
 * Florian is working on a Windows-only version
 * ACTION: Joel will ask people to test the Windows Bibisect GUI
 * ACTION: Investigate what is causing the huge increase in size (Florian R.) FINISHED -> Results sended to Björn, Rob



PENDING ITEM: Feedback pages

 * ACTION: Sophie will shepherd native-lang versions of Feedback page

To review:
 * Feedback page in new mockup
 * NL versions (bug #?)



PENDING ITEM: EOL, Release series, and Stable versions

 * ACTION: We'll wait and see if the Fresh vs. Stable (esque) language ends up in the updater (Robinson)

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PENDING ITEM: QA Input into website redesign

 * ACTION: Sophie/Robinson - Keep QA in the loop re: updates to QA pages

Website Redesign:
 * http://newdesign.libreoffice.org/

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PENDING ITEM: Start Center and Sidebar Concerns

 * ACTION: If you try to use LibreOffice without a mouse (and using a screen reader), how is the experience? (Everyone)

Relevant tracker bugs:
 * GNU/Linux -
 * macOS -
 * Windows -

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PENDING ITEM: Introduction video to LibreOffice QA

 * ACTION: Mock something up/have something to show at a future QA Meeting (Robinson, Joren)

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PENDING ITEM: Planning Regular QA Events

 * ACTION: Joel will come up with a timeframe for future Bug Hunting Sessions/Triage Contests, with rationale.
 * Let's try to have an event every 6 months

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PENDING ITEM: Daily builds for all platforms

 * ACTION: Robinson will take point on making sure we get daily builds for win/mac/linux
 * ACTION: Write a script to make sure builds are being produced daily! (Robinson)

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Long-term/Frozen Pending Items
These are long-term or frozen items (i.e. on ice until something else happens) that we don't want to forget about...

PENDING ITEM: Update the whiteboard/keywords page

 * ACTION: Joel will turn this into an EasyHack and work on it (slowly)
 * - Cleanup Whiteboard Wiki Page

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PENDING ITEM: Most Annoying Bug List

 * ACTION: Joel will propose stricter guidelines for what qualifies as a MAB

To review:
 * How is the test going? (using the 'Priority' field in Bugzilla)

References:
 * MAB Tool - Server/service down for now

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PENDING ITEM: What to do with FDO bugs filed against Extensions, Templates
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 * https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/290 subtask of https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/209

PENDING ITEM: Talk to CS Department/others at University

 * ACTION: Put up a message on the message board at his University and see who is interested (Joel)

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PENDING ITEM: Hackfests

 * ACTION: USA involvement in hackfests -- (Keep on the agenda, discuss on QA list) (All)
 * ACTION: Joel will respond to planning email (for Penn) and help shape what we can/want to do
 * [DONE] ACTION: Robinson will check-in with OpenHatch/Deb Nichols to investigate partnership
 * [DONE] ACTION: Follow-up with all of the people I met at SCALE re:possible hackfests/events (Robinson)

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 * ANNOUNCEMENT: Our next meeting will take place... April 21st (Monday) at 18:30 UTC, unless otherwise noted on the QA/Mailing List (which may happen this week :-).

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