Design/Meetings/2015-01-21

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-01-21-tc4138199.html

Minutes
Jan 30, 2015; 2:55am Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-01-21 + Kendy: Show the horizontal ruler (but only that) in Writer again [done, integrated in time for 4.4.0] + Kendy: Talk to Moggi wrt. Context menu entry to edit Conditional Formatting https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87357 [Moggi very busy recently, no UI changes really possible there in     reasonable future :-(]    + Jay: Ask what is the plan with the templates on the new Extensions      site      [Andreas mailed design@ ML, Jay will respond.]    + right-clik on the ruler => the check should be radio-button like.      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88417      [Fixed by Caolan]    + Jay: Update screenshots on www.libreoffice.org      [has a couple of them, will send to the marketing-priv ML]    + Default document view for Writer, single page rather than      automatic      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001        + Stuart: Change the default to single page        + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or          "Multiple page view"          - would          be great to get that to gerrit    + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648 + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as     a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
 * Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Stuart
 * Completed Action Items:
 * Pending Action Items:
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Hi-DPI changes in the ruler (dbeurle) + .ui files improvements - remove misused frames (Adolfo) + Show the horizontal ruler (but only that) in Writer again (Kendy) + New sifr icons (Matthias) + Radio buttons for ruler settings dropdown (Caolán)
 * Last week's discussions that need a resolution:

+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/13196/ + just needs fixes to apply again (Kendy) + described how to do that...

+ Clipboard tools, always expose to context menu or hide when no     active content? (Jay, Adolfo) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86850 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84177 + other applications disable such stuff, instead of hiding (Jay) + toolbar & menubars in LO - disable stuff (Jay) + similar in the control context menus (e.g. 'Line (Jay)       + hard for the user to find out about functionality (Kendy)        + ultimate answer should be in the HIG's :-) (Kendy) + KDE HIG's agree with disabling, not hiding (Heiko) https://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Usability/HIG/ContextMenu "Disable menu items that don't apply to the current             context, instead of removing them." + Gnome HIG's - ???
 * Discussions that need a resolution - resolved items

+ Document preview in open dialog (Jay) Adolfo suggest this be a GSoC https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87748 + good idea for a GSoC task (Kendy) + need to double-check the technical feasibility (Kendy) + further discussion above in the GSoC section above

+ Better term for "soft hyphens"? https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/560 + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_hyphen (Kendy) + 'Optional hyphen' in wikipedia redirects to 'Soft hyphen' + so seems well defined to me, and better for a native speaker to decide... (Kendy) + on Google: 100k hits for "Soft Hyphen", and 17k for "Optional         Hyphen" + OTOH seems that Optional Hyphen might be better understandable for non-native speakers (Heiko) + German translation is meaningless (Heiko) + translators could/should use the correct term in the specific language (Jay) + and Soft Hyphen sounds good to native speaker + conclusion: Let's keep 'soft hyphen' + ideal would be to add the wikipedia link as a comment where the term appears, but no idea if that's possible

+ Disable object, image, and character toolbars in Impress (Jay, Cor) To simply the interface by having just one toolbar above and below https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676 + Impress & Draw only (Jay) + Impress uses the sidebar much more (and it was traditionally         so too) (Jay) + is it mostly to disable the toolbar, or is more work needed? (Kendy) + only about the change of the default (Jay) + unfortunately we would lose the possibility to change the style first, and then draw (Kendy) + like, now it is possible to choose the color, and draw several rectangles with that color etc. (Kendy) + this is not possible from the sidebar (Kendy) + Jay has them, will send to marketing-priv (Jay) + Tango_testing should be removed from 4.4 (Jay) + should be master-only (Jay) + sounds good (Kendy) + actually according to what I see in configure.ac, it is             not in the release builds (Kendy) + Hicontrast should be 'High Contrast' (Jay) + according to cui/uiconfig/ui/optviewpage.ui, it should be 2 words (Kendy) + maybe some bug? (Kendy) + worth testing with the release build (Kendy) + indeed, looks like a bug, wrong in 4.3 (Jay)
 * Terribly outdated screenshots on www.libreoffice.org (Jay/Kendy)
 * Icon Updates / Issues

+ Sifr + Breeze (Jay) + https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123517 + Wiki with list of icons to design (Riddell) https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze + custom LO icons https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/actions/LO_lc_icons_breeze

+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/13fPolgF_RyvCYXLIoVaTHkL2ZnaUJkNpIykTWYrDMEY/edit?usp=sharing + how to involve the users now in the most effective way? (Heiko) + survey? What feedback what do we need / want? (Heiko) + will publish that on planet.documentfoundation (Heiko) + go for that :-) (Kendy)   + lots of good stuff there, we should start digesting that (Stuart)    + will introduce a similar section to 'discussions that need      resolution' (Kendy)        + for things that actually need more people to look at (Kendy)
 * Customization Proposal (Heiko)
 * UX advise bugs in bugzilla (Stuart)