Design/Meetings/2018-03-21

Link
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08612.html

Minutes
Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/21 From: Heiko Tietze  Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 21:41:39 +0100 To: LibO Design 

Present: Stuart, Andreas, Heiko

Tickets

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115418 + unclear use case and benefit (Heiko) + AutoCorrect options for markup strikeout and italic are added commit (Tiago Santos) + we would have to add default character styles for underline and strikeout first (Stuart) + Advantage of character style on export and we have a pedagogic mission + Drawback when user reconfigure the inbuilt styles; we do not have control over the actual markup correction (Heiko) + implement option to either have character style or direct formatting (Stuart) + strongly opposing to this option (Heiko) => WONTFIX
 * Use character style for auto-format like *bold*

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116448 + Example: source with 1,_,2 and target _,a,_ copy source and paste special over target with/wo skip + Options: "Skip empty source cells", "Don't override with empty cells" => no further opinion so lets keep the original text and add a tooltip "If enabled, blank cells in source will not override the target."
 * Improve wording of "Skip empty cells"

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116452 + https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer#Shortcut_Keys_for_Tables_in_LibreOffice_Writer + a time slot is a bad workflow; better repeat last command, make function sticky (like clone formatting), etc. (Heiko) + original summary needs to get adjusted; we have to decide one by one about hard-coded key combinations (Stuart) + no easter egg hunt => no disagreement, so let's go, blessing from the ESC assumed
 * Remove functions "3 seconds in Insert/Delete mode" (alt+insert, alt+delete in Writer > Tables)

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116297 + How about a longer timeout for tooltips to appear (say, 4 seconds)? (Adolfo) + don't mess up with timers; should all be defined by the system but isn't actually (Heiko) + Transparency doesn't work (Csongor on BZ) + we should keep the tooltips because of accessibility (Stuart) => provide an expert option to not show tooltips on tables
 * Remove tooltips from Writer tables

+ Windows builds better served moving them off of Tango/Galaxy legacy (Stuart) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 (Tango > Colibre) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115867 (Colibre) + planning variants in different colors but as extensions (Andreas) + ask the community and ship only one icon theme (Heiko) + reasons for one artwork only (icon theme, font, notebookbar etc.) + and deliver icon themes via extension? Not a fan... (Stuart) + aim for system/theme mimicry (Andreas) + In exchange for the new theme, file an easy hack to kill off Crystal (Adolfo) + we have in master Breeze, Breeze Dark, High Contrast, Sifr Dark, Tango, Elementary, Colibre, Sifr, Galaxy (R.I.P. Crystal since 4.x?) => no agreement for one theme only => 1a. backport to 6.0.x and optionally 1b. make Colibre the default for Windows for 6.0 (do a big announcement with marketing) 2. make Colibre the fallback for 6.1 and flag Crystal obsolete or move it directly into an extension 3. include in LOOL => to be discussed: the future of Tango (see 90194)
 * Default icon set on Windows (or on for all builds?)
 * 1) intransparent development without any user request and no clear requirement
 * 2) removal becomes controversial with time
 * 3) maintanence trouble
 * 4) size of binaries