Design/Meetings/2015-09-16

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-09-16-tc4160634.html

Minutes
Sep 17, 2015; 11:57am Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-09-16
 * Present: Heiko, Kendy, Jay, Mattias
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Printer missing from tooltip (Samuel) + Sifr updates (Matthias) + current time inconvenient a bit, what would be the best time? (Kendy) + let's do a doodle (Heiko) + September 23-25, 2015, Aarhus, Denmark + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/call-for-papers/ + see you there! + Jay pushed many more improvements recently to gerrit + when all approved, will release a new version (Kendy) + help-related meta bugs: + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580 + wikihelp? (Jay) + help proposal https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing + idea to use xml editor (Kendy) + add repo path to wiki help https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94044 + easily doable (Kendy) + HelpAuthoring now reasonably OK for new help pages, but one has to be extremely careful when editing existing stuff (Kendy) + modulo some bugs - when editing a field, it can destroy some other fields with "** Expression is faulty **" message https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94167 + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90790 + went through the reproducer with Jay, it's an additional bug (Kendy) + will create a report (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866 + Sifr & breeze for dark themes + would be good to have versinos that use lighter colors (Jay) + ideally done in S/W (Kendy) + please create a bug for that Jay (Kendy) + I'll add the code pointers then (Kendy) + idea about breeze-color (Heiko) + talked to Andreas + Idea: background color wrt. function/catgory + sometimes the toolbar is too grey (Heiko) + would be good to be able to download + use new icon theme easily (Heiko) + problem to find a developer :-( - a bit of hacking involved (Kendy)   + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)          https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing        + pushed one patch this week (crop icon); to 5.0 too, plus some updates (Jay)    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions        + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing    + no news this week
 * Update the meeting time (Kendy)
 * LibreOffice Conference
 * Help updating (Kendy)
 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
 * Templates Competition (Jay)

+ no news this week
 * 5.0 Artwork (Jay)

+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit + replace "UX principles" https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Principles by "HIG" on https://www.libreoffice.org/community/design"?       + UX principles good & relevant, but not specific enough (Heiko)        + suggest to change this link to the HIG instead:          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines        + conclusion: Will mail [hidden email] (Heiko) / done        + Stuart recommends to wait with pushing the HIG to a more prominent place until it is more refined. (Stuart/Heiko)            + then again - never let perfect be enemy of the good ;-) (Kendy)            + I think it would be enough to improve the look of              https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines a bit, and switch (Kendy)    + sidebar + dialogs        + added to wiki    + what character should be in the list? - would like to add more (Jay)    + citation maybe? (Heiko)    + text body vs. default        + what's the difference? (Jay)        + preference to use 'text body' + problem with table styles - even with ODF + a GSoC implementation exists, unfortunately not merged yet (Kendy) + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?h=feature/table-style + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94076 + table style support - http://www.vandenoever.info/tmp/2015/sep/table-properties/report.html + Moggi said sidebar work is going along well (Jay) + he's just finished another round of bug fixes + he's asked that people test the sidebar and submit bugs using tdf#91063 in the blocks field + will be moving my bug report log to bugzilla https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MobF-oLurtYVYx4Q_2K___SoSpYNcCfWbcewSa4bk2w/edit?usp=sharsang12
 * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 * Writer: Styles menubar entry (Jay)
 * Chart sidebar (Jay)

+ want to create a set of chart styles (Jay) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90490 + chart styles are broken up into data series color sets, layout presets, and element style presets + asked Heiko and Matthias to create a few color sets and layout presets + will ask Moggi what is possible to implement within the sidebar + research work https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZ2JchTHZ0_o4CZwMNB-xVqIKJVomrnSw8LetfX-uZ8/edit?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6qJrVIa0SAlfmZTWFI4MWpCLUh0OXlnYVV5bmtoMXNVU25kRzlHNDZZQ3FDdVFvcHU1emc&usp=sharing