Design/Meetings/2015-11-18

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-11-18-tc4167411.html

Minutes
Nov 25, 2015; 3:24pm Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-11-18 [the meeting on 11th was cancelled]


 * Present: Cor, Heiko, Kendy, Samuel
 * UI changes integrated the last two weeks:

+ form-related controls ta insert and tools menu (Jay) + hierarchical organization of slide transitions (Tor) + and new slide transitions (Tor, Tomaž) + title for image export options dialog (Jay) + fix accelerators in start center (Kendy) + loading .svg images from image resources (Tomaž) + "hide whitespace" improvements (Ashod) + new Outline button (Maxim) + missing an icon + context menu customization (Maxim) + new PopupLabel property for uno commands (Maxim) + new TooltipLabel property for uno commands (Samuel) + shortcut keys missing in undo and redo tooltips (Samuel) + tdf#34882 Adding hex and decimal code search (Steve Hart) + Impress: Rework the way the display modes are presented (Philippe)


 * Update the meeting time (Kendy)

+ Please fill the Doodle until the next meeting (Wed 25th, November 2015): http://doodle.com/poll/d4b628cgxanrvmka

+ would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy) + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay) + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
 * Table styles (Kendy)

+ pending publishing + some thing still can be discussed

+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing + not published yet + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/ + now set up, admins, thank you!
 * Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
 * Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)

+ Heiko, Jay, Kendy have the credentials + Heiko can start writing a post + how to reference the author etc.? (Heiko) + not possible to have a named posting (Heiko) + best to poke the admins - awerner set this up for us (Kendy) + will ask for some plugins that will be useful (Heiko) + none this week
 * Bug discussions


 * NotebookBar (Samuel)

+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar + screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png + NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy) + full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file + an optional thing for users (Samuel) + menus + toolbars the default + now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)

+ keep in mind the HIG (Heiko) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar + mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko) + eg. grouping + possible with Notebookbar + eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?

+ loading the toolbars from glade (.ui) instead of .xcu files + this will probably remove the possibility to make the toolbars floating (Kendy) + but that is good (Cor, Kendy)

+ can have more sets of toolbars with this (Cor)

+ Will have a friday session on NotebookBar topic on Fr 27th + Please have a look at the following links until then: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar#Resources


 * Help updating (Kendy)

+ released a new release (Kendy)

+ online modification prototype (Jay) + Liongold on IRC working on that + will share that with Jay, and can iterate + need a VM from the infra to host the prototype + will create another ticket for this (Jay) https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1584 + would be great to put the code to a repository (Kendy) + dev-tools (some subdir there) (Kendy) + or a new repo - eg. on github as a start? (Kendy) + dev-tools preferred though

+ help-related meta bugs: + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580


 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

+ icons for slide transitions needed (Kendy)

+ 32pixel sifr icons + first 2 from Pappamatti + reminded him to push svg too (Jay) + to use the Tomaž's code

+ Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing + Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014 + add a "extra large" entry

+ still something wrong with inheritance (Jay) + Samuel will look at one of them + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866 + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and put to images_tango.zip + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565 tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945 galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516

+ Sifr & Breeze for dark themes + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632 + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)

+ Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing + trying to reach out to the Gnome guys (Jay) + https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162

+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing

+ Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + 32px icons completed (Andreas) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/LibreOffice/32px%20support/images_breeze.zip goes into /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/


 * Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)

+ Friday session this week (Nov/27) + 1:00pm CEST / 12:00am UTC + property dialogs (Heiko / Jay) + notebookbar

+ List of possible future topics + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing

+ Friday session - NotebookBar https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pt1Psa4YDVwFOdYlLl6TXaK5LIK2uf1RKJk1UOTLsWg/edit?usp=sharing

+ glade introduction would be useful (Heiko) + best practices etc. (Heiko) + happy to do that, but cannot this week :-( (Kendy)


 * User statistics

+ add a env. var for triggering this too - is that possible (Jay) + easy to do (Kendy)

+ store to a text file rather than standard error (Jay) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95505 + easy to do too (Kendy)

+ additional data collection + add timestamp and collect each and every action as it in order to analyze the sequence (e.g. which function is mostly followed by undo) + add document info to track the workflows document based + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a2TcTztqMauFwM7DV1smhu85TdTXKxxTiSf7W3clhZc/edit

+ could be a theme for the Friday session this week

+ TDF tender? + currently there's not enough good concept (Heiko) + willing to frame it better at the Friday session (UX)