Design/Meetings/2016-10-14

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2016-Oct-14-tc4197074.html

Minutes
Oct 14, 2016; 8:20am Heiko Tietze-2 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Oct-14

Present: Jay, Cor, Kendy, Heiko, Stuart, Tomaz

Organization

* News wrt. comments for tickets being assigned and in implementation (esp. easyhacks) + do not comment publicly in this state + do not comment when needsUXEval has been removed + do not use NEEDINFO / use NEEDINFO to identify tickets to be resolved + be kind * Sources of official materials missing + take care of it AI => kendy + add this to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding * Design session next week about versioning with Sharepoint integration + starting after the hangout at 15:00 CEST (Oct/21) Tickets

* Always allow spacing to contents even when there is no border set (for frames but also page, paragraph...) + tdf#41542 (solved to deal with round-trips/as compatibility feature for doc files; but still disabled) + pro: flexibility, con: legacy issue/compatibility/odf spec? + good idea (jay) + Regina might have had concerns because of inteference with other areas (e.g. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33041      Allow page background to cover the whole page,   not only within page borders) (Cor) => make sure that nothing breaks but green otherwise (AI Heiko: talk to Regina)

* Allow toolbars in full-screen mode? + e.g. quick find https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95462 + pro: no limitation for users, con: clear concept without; only the qf-bar has a shortcut + full screen mode is for writing, no need to have floating toolbars (Cor, Jay) + How about Navigator in a floating toolbar? (Heiko) + Not needed (Jay), not today (Cor) + Technical limitation perhaps (kendy) => No guideline will be defined; basically the mode is to close/hide toolbars and other controls

* Bring back "Clear direct formatting" + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102915 + Pro: most users want it; Con: keep the menus clean; preference for styles + better processes needed; user workflow should be the first argument; useful in both (Stuart) + it is available at the toolbar, no need for the contex menu (Jay) + context menu is informative for beginners (Cor) + probably beginners do not know what it means (kendy) => bring it back but into submenu (~60% decision) * Show restart message after extension installation or update menu automatically (cornouws, 20161002): + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46279 + I've reopened because IMO it sucks.. + No response from the people, so maybe something we should just live with?? + It makes sense to not ask for restart when it isn't needed. But whether this is added to the description or    where ever is not a matter of UX I'd say. (Heiko) => revert the patch; add to extension spec for option to restart