Design/Meetings/2015-11-04

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-11-04-tc4166036.html

Minutes
Nov 11, 2015; 9:56am Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-11-04
 * Present: Heiko, Jan-Marek, Jay, Kendy, Mattias
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ optimized breeze icons (Andreas) + jump to specific page in preview (Gulsah) + text background tab in char formatting dialog (Bubli) + re-use MenuBarManager for context menus too (Maxim) + text background color related fix (Maxim)

+ would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy) + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay) + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing + 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy) + more discussion about the proposal (Jay/Heiko/Kendy) + afraid of too many elements there (Heiko)
 * Table styles (Kendy)

+ pending publishing + some thing still can be discussed

+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing + not published yet + redmine ticket: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505 + pending on infra + voting feature/plugin + none this week
 * Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
 * Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
 * Bug discussions


 * NotebookBar (Samuel)

+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar + screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png + NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy) + full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file + an optional thing for users (Samuel) + menus + toolbars the default + now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)

+ keep in mind the HIG (Heiko) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar + mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko) + eg. grouping + possible with Notebookbar + eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?

+ tabs make toolbars context depending which is against the use case of toolbars (Heiko) + structuring the toolbar with labeled groups and perhaps different sized buttons make sense + the tabs from the current notebookbar should stay a menubar (Heiko)


 * Help updating (Kendy)

+ new patches, would be great to have a new release (Jay) + will do, this time really :-) (Kendy)

+ online modification prototype (Jay) + Liongold on IRC working on that + will share that with Jay, and can iterate + need a VM from the infra to host the prototype + will create another ticket for this (Jay) https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1584 + would be great to put the code to a repository (Kendy) + dev-tools (some subdir there) (Kendy) + or a new repo - eg. on github as a start? (Kendy) + dev-tools preferred though

+ images in helpauthoring (Jay) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent#Make_Images_Appear + image sizes not saved with HelpAuthoring + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95509 + warning to correctly implement image insertion + implement a image root + have a pending patch (Jay)

+ the menubar re-org (Jay) + help 1/3 adapted - File, Edit & View menus + pending in gerrit now

+ help-related meta bugs: + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580


 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

+ 32pixel sifr icons + first 2 from Pappamatti + reminded him to push svg too (Jay) + to use the Tomaž's code

+ Tango icons from Jay for new commands in table toolbar

+ Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing + Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014 + add a "extra large" entry

+ still something wrong with inheritance (Jay) + Samuel will look at one of them + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866 + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and put to images_tango.zip + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565 tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945 galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516

+ Sifr & breeze for dark themes + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632 + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)

+ Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing + trying to reach out to the Gnome guys (Jay) + https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162

+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing

+ Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + 32px icons completed (Andreas) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/LibreOffice/32px%20support/images_breeze.zip goes into /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/


 * Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)

+ Friday session this week (Nov/06) + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC + property dialogs (Heiko / Jay) + usage statistics

+ List of possible future topics + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing

+ Friday session - NotebookBar https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pt1Psa4YDVwFOdYlLl6TXaK5LIK2uf1RKJk1UOTLsWg/edit?usp=sharing

+ glade introduction would be useful (Heiko) + best practices etc. (Heiko) + happy to do that, but cannot this week :-( (Kendy)


 * Templates

+ Need code pointers to fix small template thumbnails in start center (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89095 screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=113301 + provided (Kendy)


 * User statistics

+ add a env. var for triggering this too - is that possible (Jay) + easy to do (Kendy)

+ store to a text file rather than standard error (Jay) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95505 + easy to do too (Kendy)

+ additional data collection + add timestamp and collect each and every action as it in order to analyze the sequence (e.g. which function is mostly followed by undo) + add document info to track the workflows document based + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a2TcTztqMauFwM7DV1smhu85TdTXKxxTiSf7W3clhZc/edit