Design/Meetings/2017-03-23

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2017-Mar-23-tc4210866.html

Minutes
Mar 23, 2017; 7:22am Heiko Tietze-2 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-23

+++++++ MEETING TIME NEXT WEEK IS 12:00 GMT+1 DST / 10am UTC +++++++

Present: Eric, Thibaut, Tomaz, Heiko

Tickets

* New meeting time as DST begins? + Keep 12:00 Berlin time so new UTC is 10am

+ Improvements asked by users (mostly asked are 1st) version at time of survey: 4.4 + Better print and page layout setup + Less crashes + Mailing + Better MSO compatibility especially Impress + Pivot tables (persistant custom cell formats) + Bullets & Numbering + Photos and pictures management + Load/Save speed on big files + General UX design and usability + Macro editor improvements + More/Easier layout options in diagrams + Online and embedded help improvement + Lossless copy between LibreOffice modules + Better link with business software + Sorting and Autofilters + « REAL » cut/paste in Calc (actually removing the cut line) + Emailing without SMTP + Clone tool "full clone by default" + Keyboard shortcuts like MSO + New page / new section (especially when switching page format)
 * Results from user survey (Eric Ficheux)

* Prototyping tool * We want to use a tool where different people/groups can easily cooperate * Do we want to use closed-software (which is today much better)? Closed software + http://balsamiq.com/ (used for most of the mockups so far) Providing interactivity, export to html/javascript, requirements etc.    + https://www.justinmind.com/ (got in contact with the company and they offer good conditions) + https://www.axure.com/ Open Source + http://pencil.evolus.vn/ + http://draw.io/ (?) Ultimately + LibreOffice Draw (Eat own dog food)

* Handling of Sifr + Heiko: "I wonder who is in charge of https://github.com/libodesign as     there was a related problem with tdf#106284. Guess it is an abandoned idea." + Kendy: "Yeah, the separate git repo did not work out, we ended up working     directly in the core.git (which is a plus I think)" + Tomaz: "we don't have those icons in core.git" + Heiko: "Meaning we have to merge them?" + Tomaz: "well there are more things to do - talk about how to store the icons     - currently sifr is in big svg sheets (multiple icons per sheet), so ideally      they should be 1 icon per svg - same as breeze if designers don't want that      OK - we can store those svg sheets too, but we need to start building sifr_svg set      which needs to be 1 icon per svg. I'm a bit dissapointed that new sifr icons have      been added without svg variant"

* Moving is simple but maintainer would be needed; put also svg into the repo (Tomaz) => Jay, could you get in contact with the author?

* Make LibreOffice design unique (Thibaut) + Right now we adopt the design to the system which has flaws, especially on dark themes https://imgur.com/a/RtFOD + Usually programs do have a clear branding so the suggestion is to have one default design and one default icon theme + This was likely decided intentionally (Heiko) + Issues should be filed as bugs (Tomaz) => File an enhancement request and let's run the discussion on Bugzilla (Heiko)

* Major release update + better than hiring a designer we should do the design with an open source community + http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Branding-for-LibreOffice-6-0-tt4210681.html

GSoC

* Request about blurry shadows + reply on https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q20gfoikNic0zi10_SkZuTr2zlp4XRkfrnlv7tK2Ins

Tickets * New default color palette + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538 + survey done, analyzed and comment included into the final layout + https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/173uYSPE1TPaZdCL997YyQLllRt2xBIV4oD5M3Bjo7yU