Design/Meetings/2016-01-15

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2016-01-15-tc4173405.html

Minutes
Jan 29, 2016; 5:27am Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-01-15
 * Present: Stuart, Italo, Heiko


 * UI changes integrated since the last meeting:

+ Update of Breeze and Galaxy transition icons (Andreas) + Update in the handling of macOS menus (Maxim) + SaveModified icon for Tango and Galaxy (Adolfo) + Sifr updates (Matthias)

+ http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg07525.html
 * Impress - Modes Tab bar

+ Setting of modes tab bar is not persistent + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97119 is being fixed by bubli according IRC communication + META: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95983 for issues related to this refactoring

+ Workflow needs improvement (Italo) + Power users switch frequently between page and slide sorter (Italo) + Even Benjamin would be kind of an expert in Impress since the gap between novice and experts are small here (Italo) + Fixing the bug solves the issue since Eve would enable the modes tab bar once and forever (Cor) + Adding shortcuts like Cltr+Shft+M for norMal and Ctrl+Shft+T sorT (Cor) + Hiding by default to spare vertical space, easy access via split button in toolbar (Stuart) + Not enough user testing; Impress power users will not hide this tabs bar (Italo, Michel) + Show by default until we found a better solution (Samuel) + Find a better place for the toolbar split button for instance next to format pages (Italo, Sophie, Michel) + Last choice of the split button's selection has to be stored (Sophie) + Acceptance of changes is a matter of communication (Sophi) part of that being to increase use of our MozTrap guided testing cases https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/MozTrap http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/results/runs/?

+ Master slides are too easy to access making it dangerous for beginners (could edit master instead of pages) (Italo) + Enterprise environment blocks editing of master slides; remove master slides from split button widget (Italo) + Blocking is not so easy, e.g. "Set background image > To all pages" affects the master (Cor) + Does not introduces new great dangers for corporate use in the Netherlands but definitely an issue for Italy (Cor) + No good visual cue for master vs. normal (black/gray) (Italo) + Hide master slides behind a menu as how masters are handled by PowerPoint and Keynote (Italo, Cor)

+ Opt-in for the modes tab bar (current master) or shown by default + off by default (Heiko) + on by default, or when it is off then have the toggle on/off button on the toolbar (Italo, Stuart) + transition time: on for now, off from the next release on (Stuart, Italo) + Show the toggle display-modes-tab button on toolbar solves everything (Italo) + Feature is used only once and should go into the main menu view settings (Heiko) + Agree with keeping it as it for now is and we explain the changes to people (Italo)

+ Where to place the toolbar split button? + next to other slide functions (Italo, Heiko) + enable view on/off and move both buttons to the right end of the standard toolbar (Stuart)

+ Store selected mode for the next session? + Sure (Heiko) + Change access to master slides? + Improve yes, but in future release (Heiko, Italo) + Move buttons to presentation toolbar, right hand of standard docked (Michel, Stuart) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr/Impress51_group_buttons has some cross over with tdf#89668 -- SLIDE PANE: Move slide manipulation buttons to the bottom of the pane + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89668 and with tdf#87672 -- Moving Impress view tabs to slide pane https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87672

+ Conclusion: + Hide the tabs bar by default + Show toggle display tabs bar button in the toolbar + But then hide the toggle button from realease 5.2 on (aiding transition) + Move display modes split button and the toggle tabs bar button to the right edge of the standard toolbar + Store last user setting + Think about changing access to master slides for 5.x

+ Present the user interface for LibreOffice (Italo) + there are multiple interface form factors for users
 * Marketing wants a new name for "notebook bar" interface (Italo)