Design/Meetings/2021-01-06

Link
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2021/msg00001.html

Minutes
Present: Sascha, Heiko, (Steve) Comments: Stuart, Jan, Gerhard, Regina, Thomas, MikeK, Seth

Tickets/Topic

* VIEWING Enhancement: Show cursor position as percentage of document + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138982 + nice to have but rather as document statistics with line/column number (Heiko); OP replied: "not suited for my use case" + limited value to our 'Benjamin' users (Stuart) + Writer is not a layout program (Sascha) => WF

* VIEW MENU: Replace View>Show Horizontal Scroll Bar/Vertical Scroll Bar with single menu entry + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138538 + pointless change; modifications to the main menu need very good reason (Roman, Stuart) + many programs like GIMP and Inkscape switch all SB on/off; but LibreOffice has a submenu for the scrollbars individually (Sascha) + scrollbars belong to the OS/DE and whether they be small or hide after a while is up to the system (Heiko) + scrollbars have a high value as they show the document position + comparison with image editors is bad because canvas is moved per mouse + rulers have a master switch with a shortcut (Sascha) + but a weird interaction with checkboxes that are not independent + we could improve the rulers, have a master switch plus both vertical and horizontal options - and the same for scrollbars with the advantage of    a shortcut to switch (both) scrollbars off (Sascha) + doubt the use case; horizontal scrolling, ie. high zoom level, is very unusual (Heiko) + benefit is that LibreOffice becomes more familiar with other tools (Sascha) => does not hurt to add the command but has low priority

* UI: Label "type" & Image in the image properties dialog not really helpful (self-explaining) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138844 + no change for sake of changing, Image may remain Image (Gerhard) + Type is misleading (Regina) + Type => Position and Size, Image => Flip and Rotation (Heiko) + Image could be just Rotation (Sascha) + charts and formula objects also use "Type" (for position and size    information), text box and shapes "Position and Size" + "Rotation" is used at shapes too => do it

* Add bulk-save/bulk-close options for documents + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101247 + multi-document interface (MDI) instead of an application with one interface for all documents/graphics is are rather not suited for this method + optional if implementation is easy with less maintenance (Jan, Thomas) + special workflow, better realized per macro (Sascha) + don't see the benefit from one dialog with many checkboxes for MDI documents (would be different in case of SDI) (Heiko) + command "Save All" works fine anyway (Sascha) + "Close All" without asking to save changes is a dangerous function and I'm strongly against it (Heiko) => WF (not much benefit with some effort)

* The "Strong" button when added to a toolbar shows "Strong Emphasis" not Strong + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136686 + keep "Strong Emphasis" and rename the UNO command (MikeK) => follow Mike's suggestion

* Using Ctrl + Shift + B and Ctrl + Shift + I for Emphasis and Strong Emphasis character styles (and change Super/Subscript keyboard shortcuts) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108015 + rather alt+shift+e/s for _E_mphasis and _S_trong Emphasis (Seth) + Strong Emphasis might be bold but could be any other style (see also    bug 136686 comment 8 above); therefore the association with direct formatting is misleading + it's not possible to customize character style shortcuts (bug 106785) neither is one assigned => keep the CS empty and resolve ticket as WF