QA/Meetings/2012/October 05

= Agenda = Original agenda & minutes can be viewed here: October 05, 2012 QA Call Agenda & Minutes

Pending Action Items

 * 1) Merge 3.5 & 3.6 in one big bibisect repo (Bjoern)
 * 2) Recheck and tweak bibisect details (Bjoern)
 * 3) Ping Cloph if we can make that swithcable to say "Bug" instead of "EasyHack" when explicitly requested (Bjoern)
 * 4) New Bug Hunting Sessions (Cor)

Complete Action Items

 * 1) Setup hard hack wiki page (Joel)

New Action Items

 * 1) Structured Manual Testing (Yifan/Petr)
 * 2) No update


 * 1) Bug Wrangling
 * 2) No new hardhacks needed this week
 * 3) Open/Closed hardhack overview
 * 4) ACTION: Add closed hard hacks to wiki (Joel)
 * 5) ACTION: Blog about this (Bjoern)
 * 6) ACTION: Lead Joel to get his blog on the planet, once he has one (Bjoern)
 * 7) triaging project update (Joel)
 * 8) We should poke native language team (Thorsten)
 * 9) ACTION:  Poke Sophie about triaging (Bjoern)
 * 10) FDO Contract updates
 * 11) Postponed


 * 1) Community Building/ Communication
 * 2) QA Wochenende in Essen
 * 3) Need more people
 * 4) Few newcomers
 * 5) bibisect for Windows very popular
 * 6) ACTION: Ping Norbert to go forward with it


 * 1) timebased releases still perceived as a problem
 * 2) stable is essentially blocked -- it is open for half a year for critical bugs only and hard hacks are the way to communicate those to development without overcommitment (Thorsten/Bjoern)
 * 3) More testers of master/3.x.0 needed


 * 1) Marketing storm always hits 3.x.0
 * 2) Has to be stable enough to prevent backlash
 * 3) needs to be announced at this point in time to allow early adopters bugreporting


 * 1) Auto Updater (Windows)
 * 2) Initial troubles should be solved now
 * 3) Activate for which minor? 3.x.2/3.x.3
 * 4) Maybe offer an update button without popup for early-adopters, in addition (pull-model on request, push at .2/.3) (Bjoern)


 * 1) BSA API
 * 2) Some reservations
 * 3) we have no trouble with the number of initial bug reports
 * 4) too easy bugfiling lowers the quality of reported bugs, creating even more work for bugwranglers.
 * 5) We are in need of bug wranglers, not so much reporters
 * 6) Most of "too late bugs" are not "not reported", but "not visible to dev as critical bug"
 * 7) Instead, we should create a landing page on the end of the BSA?
 * 8) Confirm bugs
 * 9) Verify fixed bugs (mostly to motivate more people into running master)
 * 10) Maybe even have a menu entry in About for that?

= Minutes =