Design/Meetings/2018-07-04

Link
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08755.html

Minutes
Present: Tomaz, Stuart, Heiko

Last week(')s todo's

Jun/27 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104318 + e.g. in tabs with Tools > Options > Language Settings > Default on top + remove “For the current document only” + drawback: displaces language settings (locale = english) and font settings (default = english) + how to deal with the character dialog? (Tomaz) + consequently we have to show all types at every time (Heiko) + could do that similar to fill styles (color, gradient, pattern...) + all types are needed in parallel so switching is bad (Tomaz) Jul/04 + flatten out "languages" needed/wanted (Stuart) + how to assign a default font to headings/text depending on locales + maybe add it to https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/VCL.xcu or in files below https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/ + see also tdf#112879 + take defaults from this/these files (remove tools > options > language settings > languages: default languages) => remove also _all_ tools > options > writer > basic fonts (*) and let the user set-up defaults per styles: default + in multi-language documents/workflows the user is supposed to create paragraph styles with specific langauges that take their default from the (non-configurable) defaults and may customize in the paragraph style dialog + when removing cjk/ctl dev should take care of spaghetti code similar to search/kashida sensitive depends in the past on tools > options > languages on/off ( https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116242 )
 * Tools > Options > Asian/CTL always active

Tickets

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118330 + use of module names instead of clear names, eg. Text document -> WRITER + promoting the modules is a good idea but not alone => better in brackets like "Text document (WRITER)" if there is an explicite module + Macro and programming -> Macros and scripting + Spreadsheets -> Spreadsheets (CALC) + Charts and Diagrams -> Charts and Diagrams + Installation -> %PRODUCTNAME Installation + Common Help Topics -> Common Help Topics + Database Functionality -> Database Functionality (BASE) + Presentation and drawings -> Presentation and drawings (IMPRESS/DRAW) + Formulas -> Formulas (MATH) + Text Documents -> Text Documents (WRITER) + HTML documents -> HTML documents (WRITER WEB) => involve l10n for the actual labels whether or not upper case etc. => to think ahead we could also add this to File > New + Text documents (WRITER) ... + Database (BASE)
 * Terminology in CONTENTS sidebar

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118481 + introduce a user-defined string (Heiko) + might not be part of the ODF spec (Tomaz) + go with a standard tree that allow to keep nodes open including a switch to expand (or collapse) all nodes (Stuart) => do that
 * Calc, Conditional formatting: Drop expandable sections and show all at once

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100856 + remove "More..." + nice shortcut (Tomaz) + weird relation between font/unicode -> language <- dictionary (Stuart) needs additional review given possible Asian/CTL rework => better keep it = WF
 * Tools > Language > For * > More...