Design/Meetings/2018-04-18

Link
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg08683.html

Minutes
Present: Stuart, Thomas, Gökhan, Javier, Heiko

Welcome Javier (from FSFE Agrentina)!

* Firebird migration strategy + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116944 (migration strategy) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117057 (dialogs- fixed) + http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Automatische-Migration-von-integrierten-HSQLDB-ODB-Dateien-nach-integrierten-Firebird-Datenbank-ODB-n-tt4237655.html (lengthy discussion on German user group) + tdf#116944 should probably be closed. The warning dialog is in place, and automatic conversion to FB3 suppressed. (Stuart) => we should observe the migration procedure

* Removal of navigation toolbar + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115817 (ux) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38781 (help/docu) + the toolbar behavior is not what I'd expect, prefer it to always be active for use (like in a browser) seems like an implementation issue in the "PaM" navigation stack. If it can be savlaged, it should be. (Stuart) Question: if fully functional, better worked into the Navigator dialog or added to Standard toolbar? Or both? (Stuart) + could be defaulted to docked left -independent from the sidebar on the right- as in many document viewers (ms office, okular, similar pdf viewers, etc.). also maybe with some modifications. (Gökhan)

* Chart styles + Volunteer showed-up on IRC, javierbuilder + Scope: Calc only or in general + Ideally the chart style works in Writer as well (like table styles) (Heiko) + Basics: ODF conform style possible or some kind of direct formatting like table styles + Style known in OASIS? http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part1.html#__RefHeading__1416482_253892949 + Requirements/Tickets: + (Full) chart style + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62925 + tdf#62860 is kind of a duplicate + on the top level have some kind of workflow similar to area filling (Heiko) + code needs to take a couple of presets and allow users to extend the list + to do: mockup with all properties placed on such a dialog + will try to find a mentor for Javier (Heiko) + would be good to do a few easyhacks to convince mentors + Quickly switch chart colors + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90490 + tdf#39097 is kind of a duplicate + would be a good and easy to implement first step (Thomas) + solution limited to colors is not working, has to be a real style (Javier) + Create default charts without wizard + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90459 + All-in-one dialog for chart modification + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90687 + 1) Type - Format > Chart Type        + 2) Data Range - Format > Data Ranges > Data Range + 3) Data Series - Format > Data Ranges > Data Series        + 4) Data Table - View > Data Table + 5) Elements - Insert > Titles, Legend, Grids        + 6) Area - Format > Chart Area > Borders, Area, Transparency + Overviews + Summary with screenshots https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Chart_styles + (Old) proposal for a new workflow https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/04/16/insertchart/ + Jay's work on the topic https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QZ2JchTHZ0_o4CZwMNB-xVqIKJVomrnSw8LetfX-uZ8 + Alternative + Template like MSO https://support.office.com/en-us/article/save-a-custom-chart-as-a-template-259a5f9d-a9ec-4b3f-94b6-9f5e55187f2a?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US

* Nested styles + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115311 + Idea 1: (+1 Stuart, Thomas) + context menu with "Override" (default, meaning applied on double click) and "Add" for the selected character style + multi-selection in character styles list for feedback + visualization per inspector to see the prioritization (last applied style overrides other properties) + Deck with Paragraph and Character style https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90646 + Option 2: + forbid nested styles (-1 Stuart)