Design/Meetings/2015-04-15

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-04-15-tc4146941.html

Minutes
Apr 22, 2015; 11:44am Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-04-15


 * Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Ken, Kendy

+ welcome Ken! - from the KDE design community
 * Completed Action Items:


 * Pending Action Items:

+ Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128) + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay) + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794 + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar + Jay: Create a bug report about problem with parent icon set links.txt entries not appearing in child icon sets (Jay) + Kendy: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is， more complete
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Rearrange Chart toolbars https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90492 + .ui updates (Bubli, Clément) + improved page numbering in Calc and Draw/Impress (Dobra Gabor) + new Breeze icons (Andreas) + Sifr updates (Matthias) + show only extensions we are able to insert (Bubli)

+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit + should add information how to create new widgets (Heiko) + would be good to have Friday session about this (Heiko) + so that we can have the functional & visual parts there (Heiko) + generally UI guidelines should be kept simple to avoid the stagation that more detailed documents get (Ken)
 * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 * Icon Updates / Issues

+ Shouldn't the icons in the Start Center always be the TDF/LibreOffice official "Branding" icons regardless of the icon theme? (Pedro) AI     + best to agree with Marketing - if the app icons should have the status of logos (Kendy) + Tango (Alex/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing + pushed new icons for Calc (Jay)

+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing + Papamatti pushed some new icons (Jay) + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + Andreas pushed more icons (Jay) + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing + Should I include it in the UI/UX priorty list google doc? (Jay) + sounds good (Kendy) + will bring it to the ESC to find more interested people who can provide code pointers (Kendy) + ~10 is enough for now + Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart) https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding + it is a bit thin, so feel free to hack at it. + need some crafting on the Whiteboard as to scope of 5.0 branding proposals, e.g.         + visual design (color scheme, icons) + StartCenter specifics (changes to layout--yes/no--) + placment or size of thumbnail views/template views etc.   + already some responses to posts to Users and Design MLs
 * How best to provide kendy with a list of needDevEval (Jay)
 * Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)

+ needed: splash, startcenter graphics, about + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Color_Table + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements

+ reached to some people we know (Heiko, Jay) + now to spread the word more AI     + sync with marketing (Kendy) + Blog posted - http://user-prompt.com/libreoffice-design-session-shapes/ + additional reaction under the blogpost + don't forget the connector shapes + another +1's for accordion + topic closed :-)
 * Shapes Sidebar (Heiko/Jay)
 * Insert Chart (Heiko/Jay)

+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z1IBeqKnscoODgFDNm81iDnwkzxce92sEsYuMggnTDQ/edit?usp=sharing + somebody asked why a dialog when we have a sidebar? + could be that click in the toolbar just adds the chart that would be tweaked in sidebar + but the dialog is needed because of data in Writer + blogpost pending, will be out tomorrow + should we present both 2 proposals, or agree on one only? + problem that these use a different approaches to the UX (Heiko) + the main thing (for me) is to attract a developer who'd like to implement that, so         presenting both works for me (Kendy) + conclusion: yes + 12pm UTC + Continue with last friday's insert chart discussion as it hasnt been completed + List of possible future topics https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing + Topic: Style guide https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit + general view would be good (Kendy) + like, where we want to rely on other guidelines, and what we want to design / decide ourselves (Kendy) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&component=ux-advise&list_id=527515&query_format=advanced&resolution=--- + everyone please feel empowered to look at that + act: reject, implement, decide, or bring to     the meeting or mailing list if controversial + please be kind when closing requests, usually people have spent quite some energy filing that + need the same thing as in Impress (Jay) + 5 minutes hack, please poke me on the IRC tomorrow (Kendy)
 * Next Friday's design session (Jay)
 * UX advise bugs in bugzilla (Stuart) (336 [-2] bugs in ux-advice today)
 * Sidebar open in Draw by default (Jay)