Design/Meetings/2015-10-21

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-10-21-tc4164621.html

Minutes
Oct 28, 2015; 12:54pm Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-21


 * Present: Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Tomaz, Stuart


 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Enable auto-numbering by default reverted for now (Samuel) + First/last button in the Calc tab bar (Tomaž) + NotebookBar proof-of-concept pushed (Kendy) + alt-x support to math (Justin) + more 32px Breeze icons (Andreas) + Appearance -> Application Colors (Adolfo) + initial "Home" NotebookBar tab proof-of-concept (Samuel) + make sidebar toolboxs item order RTL sensitive (Bubli)

+ would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy) + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay) + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing + 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy) + more discussion about the proposal (Jay/Heiko/Kendy) + afraid of too many elements there (Heiko)
 * Table styles (Kendy)

+ what's the game plan there? (Jay) + ODF export first, then ODF import, then OOXML support (Kendy) + but cannot promise exact timeline (Kendy)

+ had the Friday session about this, useful to continue the discussion there (Jay/Heiko) + to define the general approach to the table propeties, style etc. - in the sidebar (Jay/Heiko/Kendy) + should we eg. remove the table toolbar (that appears when the cursor gets into a table, etc.) + where to put the table styles - to such a sidebar? to styles & formatting? + etc.

+ worked on the design during the meeting (Jay/Heiko) + reworked the dialog with an almost finished layout (for discussion with the community)

+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing + not published yet + redmine ticket: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505 + pending on infra + none this week
 * Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
 * Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
 * Bug discussions


 * NotebookBar (Samuel)

+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar + screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png + NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy) + full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file + an optional thing for users (Samuel) + menus + toolbars the default + now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)

+ keep in mind the HIG (Heiko) + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar + mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko) + eg. grouping + possible with Notebookbar + eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?

+ tabs make toolbars context depending which is against the use case of toolbars (Heiko) + strucutring the toolbar with labeled groups and perhaps different sized buttons make sense + the tabs from the current notebookbar should stay a menubar (Heiko)

+ new patches, would be great to have a new release (Jay) + will do, this time really :-) (Kendy)   + help-related meta bugs:        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580    + wikihelp? (Jay)        + help proposal          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing            + idea to use xml editor (Kendy)            + steps needed:                + hooks on help.libreoffice.org redirecting to editable page                + per-user session - own git checkout                + some way of editing - either the xml help or the xml <-> html mapping                + commit creation in the git + push to gerrit            + overall - like the idea to have some infra on top of the current help,              easier than the entire editable wiki (Kendy)
 * Help updating (Kendy)
 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

+ Should svgs be stored in repo and pngs created at build time (Samuel) + Fast svg import hack working (Tomaz) + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay) + Samuel will look at one of them + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866 + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and put to images_tango.zip + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel) + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565 tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945 galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516

+ Icons not appearing in help viewer's web view https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82149 + Sifr & breeze for dark themes + bug report created (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632 + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž) + screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119614 + Elementary icon theme added to git by Bjoern (Jay) + but not enabled by default + images_human.zip to be placed in /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlTjBkSlJOY01RV3M/view?usp=sharing + Human theme in Ubuntu outdated (Jay) + Asking Gnome team for help with Tango (Jay) https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162

+ Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing + First batch of 32px icons added (Jay) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19616/ + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + 32px icons completed (Andreas) + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing + Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014 + Friday session this week (Oct/16) + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC + Table styles continued + List of possible future topics + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
 * Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)


 * Templates

+ Need code pointers to fix small template thumbnails in start center (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89095