Design/Meetings/2015-01-28

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-01-28-tc4138214.html

Minutes
Jan 30, 2015; 3:51am Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-01-28
 * Present: Cor, Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias
 * Completed Action Items:

+ Jay: Update screenshots https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/screenshots/ [has a couple of them, will send to the marketing-priv ML] + Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001 + Stuart: Change the default to single page + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or         "Multiple page view" [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would be great to get that to gerrit] + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648 + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as     a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the           issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion later)
 * Pending Action Items:
 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Improve focus handling in .ui files (Thomas Viehmann, Caolán)
 * Last week's discussions that need a resolution:

+ Disable object, image, and character toolbars in Impress (Jay, Cor) To simply the interface by having just one toolbar above and below https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676 + unfortunately we would lose the possibility to change the style first, and then draw (Kendy) + it is different to how it works in Writer - there you have no other option than to draw first, and then tweak the color (Jay) + current way is similar to eg. Inkscape (Mattias) + if we used the sidebar more, it would allow more space for the slide (Jay) + but interaction should be improved there, indeed (Mattias) + what about to restructure this a bit more? (Kendy) + proposed a sidebar for colors etc. together with shapes to             draw (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87643 wps draw sidebar - https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=111225 + Default insert image anchor and wrapping (Jay) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87720 + OK with changing the default (Cor) + is more concerned about habviour around page breaks, but that is independent (Cor) + anchored to paragraph, centers the image + is that preferred? + others insert as character (Jay) + changeable via the default style (Cor) + MSO has only As character, and To page (Jay) + "To character" anchoring should be killed ;-) (Kendy)               + adds terrible computational complexity (Kendy)        + will create example of various anchoring possibilities (Mattias)    + When image anchor is set to 'As Character' it should set vertical      align to top (Jay)      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87742    + Unify wrap labels (Jay)      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87783    + Unifying the location of 'Tools' (Jay)      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85511    + non-breaking characters showing with grey background (Jay)      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58434    + keyboard mode indicators in statusbar (Jay)      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88367      https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88296    + Underlines in drop downs (Jay)      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86678
 * Discussions that need a resolution - continue the next week
 * Discussions that need a resolution - backlog from the last weeks

+ Sifr + Matthias added a couple of missing ones before the release + thanks so much! (Kendy) + otherwise busy these days unfortunately + Breeze (Jay) + no news + https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123517 + Wiki with list of icons to design (Riddell) https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze + custom LO icons https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/actions/LO_lc_icons_breeze
 * Icon Updates / Issues

+ http://user-prompt.com/how-to-make-libreoffice-customization-usable/ + added to the to-be-filed-GSoC-ideas above + published & finished - 12 votes + some ideas about events (Heiko) + events should be separated to an own section (Heiko) + how should that look like and how to launch
 * Customization Proposal (Heiko)

+ shortcuts still part of the customization (Heiko) + like the approach! (Jay) + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UuZUJYOLPM3_LdW77OSAaUBpDhRg3iHSjo31DTUEEzk/edit + also the dialog: + Edit -> Changes -> Accept or Reject... (4.3)       + Edit -> Channges -> Manage Changes... (4.4)   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87695 (Jay) + https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=111314 ms word tracking sidebar + threaded discussion (when changing comments) + do we really need that (Heiko) + it is hard to sort, and strange a bit + isn't it an overkill for change tracking? (Heiko) + adds another level of complexity (Heiko) + without the tree view, it could be cleaner + simpler (Heiko) + what is the intention - more space, or cleaner interaction? (Cor) + likes the Filter functionality (Cor) + buttons at the top or the bottom? + suggest bottom (Jay) + is more like a dialog + merge the toolbar to the sidebar too (Jay) + and kill the toolbar + buttons for next / previous change are useful (Kendy) + would be useful to have information on more lines (Jay/Kendy) + how that goes together with sorting? (Heiko) + maybe not necessary with filtering? (Jay) AI + read the Heiko's proposal (all) + will add some competitive analysis (Heiko)
 * Change tracking sidebar proposal (Heiko)