Design/Meetings/2015-07-01

Link
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-07-01-td4153465.html

Minutes
Jul 02, 2015; 2:38pm Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-07-01 Selected post
 * Present: Heiko, Jay, Marek, Mattias, Kendy, Steve


 * UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Many new and updated Breeze, Galaxy and Sifr icons (Andreas) + Sifr improvements (Matthias) + Improve chart formatting toolbar (Jay) + Better linting of .ui files (Rosemary) + Darker background for master view (Bubli) + Move away accidental tango_testing icons (Andreas) + Hide master slide button in the toolbar (Jay) + Minor fixes to the reorganized menus (Jay) + Improved sidebar selection analyser for Calc and Draw/Impress (Rishab) + New colors for the startcenter (Kendy) + September 23-25, 2015, Aarhus, Denmark + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/call-for-papers/ + would be great to have you all there :-) - please submit a paper!
 * LibreOffice Conference
 * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

+ Breeze icons appearing in Sifr navigator (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91379 screenshot 4.4 vs 5.0 - https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115723 + found, commented in the bug (Kendy) + Icons to push into 5.0 if not already pushed (Jay) http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=ff06895b3e3a664c2238e358c02ae5b755e2ce06 + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16635/ seems not to be in libreoffice-5-0 + cherry-picked that as https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16666/ + Limit to making changes to icons in 5.0 (Jay) https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16542/ Adolfo and Norbert have diffferent opinion on this + the problem is that the tango_testing icons shouldn't have been there in the first place (Jay) + change is in a theme that is not default on any platform (Kendy) + not affecting any documentation etc.           + and are fixes - improves at least the fallback for now + Andreas woring on the real Sifr icons there - to be pushed later + in general - for large changes that affect very visible areas, they need to be synced with ESC / triple-reviewed + but for normal / small fixes, the usual rules apply (1 review is enough until the last RC) + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing + Papamatti has pushed new icons (Jay) + Andreas will create new chart icons (Jay) + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + Andreas has pushed some changes (Jay) + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing + Wiki page setup https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Templates_for_LibreOffice_5.0 + 5 templates submitted so far + 1st round of review the next meeting, please check beforehand :-)   + vote is ongoing in the Visual Identity group        + results will be tomorrow, then finalized for the next RC    + implementation of the new colors for the start center ongoing (Kendy)        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452#c45    + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit    + have written the sidebar discussion        + some replies on that (Heiko)        + discussion of the replios (Heiko/Jay)            + accepted / commented the changes    + will publish tomorrow (Heiko)    + next steps: dialogs    + Friday session this week        + dialogs are next        + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00 UTC    + List of possible future topics        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing        + Steve wants the sidebar "configuration menu" icon gone: "it's useless confusing, thus user unfriendly, creates frustration and clutters the UI."         https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92359      https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=116924        + hard to do it without a physical access to a mac :-( (Kendy)        + https://imgur.com/U8Gfqi6,lXXO7sb,P9bGLkv (steve)    + Office 2016 - http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/03/excel-100571705-orig.png        + Microsoft doesnt use mac gradient in ribbon tabs (Jay)    + can TDF provide a mac for a developer who'd work on this? (Steve)        + temporarily eg.        + i have an extra mac that devs can teamview into for building/testing    + see http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/lock-the-taskbar    + there is a "Lock toolbar position" (Jay)        + would be enough to do that a default    + please create a bugreport for that (Jay) + will do (Marek) + add to the catogory 'ux-advise' + dragging pieces of the toolbar should be platform-specific (Heiko) + no system definition for this though (Jay) + adding a specific 'lock' button or something would be confusing (Heiko) + for inserting objects from the sidebar (Marek) + sidebar primarily for properties, not for insertion, that is supposed to be in the standard toolbar (Jay) + discussed at length in the HIG's (Jay) + https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee354410.aspx + Created by microsoft as they have tabs and a number of file buttons are hidden in the tabs (Jay) + if you want to try to prototype that, no problem with that from the code point of view (Kendy) + problem is that you'd be creating an own UI that would be platform-specific (Jay) + so it would be very limiting + not possible to share the code between eg. windows and Gtk3 (Kendy) + but of course, if you want to mock-up something, go for that (Jay) + spell dialog auto-closing - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79312 + 'Go to Page' dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83054
 * Templates Competition (Jay)
 * LibreOffice 5.0 splash + start center + about box new theme (Kendy)
 * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
 * Next Friday's design session (Jay)
 * Changing the gradient toolbars to single color on Mac (Jay)
 * Toolbar less prone to editing (Marek)
 * Insert deck or panel (Marek)
 * Quick access toolbar (marek)
 * Easy hacks for Marek (Jay)