Design/Meetings/2015-03-11

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    Minutes

    Mar 12, 2015; 4:23am Jan Holesovsky
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-03-11
    * Present: Andreas, Cor, Ibrahim, Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Mattias, Stuart
    
        + Welcome Andreas - he's done a ton of Breeze icons for LibreOffice
     
    * Pending Action Items:
     
        + Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001
            + Stuart: Change the default to single page
            + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or "Multiple page view"
              [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would be great to get that to gerrit]
              AI: Stuart -- figure it out and get it posted.
        + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar'
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648
        + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus
        + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile
        + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
        + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
        + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
        + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
              + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
                and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128)
              + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
    
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
    
        + switching tabs with a mouse scroll wheel + other improvements in tabbar (Tomaž)
        + use system cursors for splits and sizebars (Rimas)
     
    * Icon Updates / Issues
     
        + Sifr
     
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + finished with ~80% (Andreas)
                + 1300 icons!
            + started based on Jay's request
            + most in the cmd/ is finished
            + Uri started with application icons, did 150, Andreas took over
            + looks at what the icon is used for (Andreas)
                + checks if they fit
            + now finished with the cmd/, and wondering about the other folders
              http://arsenalrace.at/analytics/ak/libreoffice/
     
            + https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123517
            + Wiki with list of icons to design (Riddell)
              https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze
            + custom LO icons
              https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/actions/LO_lc_icons_breeze
     
            + question: folder forumula/res
              refinp1.png and refinp2.png open and close folder
            + wrong size
                 + will become an EasyHack
     
            + can Breeze become available in the default installation? (Andreas)
                 + with this completeness, shouldn't be a problem; will bring it to ESC (Kendy)
     
            + are you pushing the icons to the repo? (Kendy)
                 + Jay was creating .png's from .svg's, and pushing to the repo
                 + push few commits through gerrit, and we'll get you the push access (Kendy)
                 + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit
     
    * Table of Contents (Heiko/Jay)
     
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89608
     
        + Regina points out that some features are missing
            + should we revisit the design? (Heiko)
            + the main goal was to change the design to be more understandable (Jay)
            + various possibilities there - what we've done is the easiest to implement, while still improving (Kendy)
            + the main concern was that the new design works for Table of Contents, but not eg. for Bibliography
                + for that we can still present the old way (Cor)
                + sounds good (Heiko, Kendy)
            + ask in the blogpost if to change it at all (Heiko)
            + like the new design (Mattias)
     
    * Modal dialogs bug (Heiko)
     
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57341
        + the bug as it is there is non-actionable (Kendy)
            + we need concrete problems - dialog XY should not be modal because of AB (Kendy)
            + welcome to consider such concrete bug reports (Kendy)
        + consensus: Close this one as INVALID or NOTABUG
     
    * Friday's design session (Jay/Kendy)
     
        + 1pm UTC
        + this week will focus on the start center / CMIS resources
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/191XV116O7TQr5qzdou8JO1vNh5xXJtRujv8r07_SONE/edit
     
    * Not using google docs for the design discussions (Adolfo, Sofie)
     
        + we are using http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/design for the meetings, no change (Kendy)
        + apologize for not sending the minutes the last month (Kendy)
            + fixing it now, have the data, just not sent yet
     
        + gdocs are used only for the designing new stuff that needs editing by more people (Kendy)
    AI      + we can ask for new documentfoundation pad if that enables more people (Kendy)
                + or whether the TDF's ownCloud instance can do collaborative editing
            + if it does not bring more new people, or is problematic, revert back to gdocs for this (Kendy)
     
    * Stuart reports about his first finished build
     
        + congrats! :-) (Kendy)
        + how much time did it take to build? (Heiko)
            + 2.5 hr (Stuart)
        + Stuart will push his patch now