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Apr 03, 2015; 1:46pm Jan Holesovsky Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-03-25 [now really :-)] * Present: Heiko, Ibrahim (joined later), Jay, Kendy * Completed Action Items: + Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001 + Stuart: Change the default to single page + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or "Multiple page view" [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would be great to get that to gerrit] AI: Stuart -- figure it out and get it posted. * Pending Action Items: + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar' https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648 + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622 + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897 + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128) + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay) + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794 + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar * UI changes integrated the last week: + Draw's new UI (Jay) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90090 + Only thing pending is opening the sidebar by default + Removal of direct formatting from context menu (Jay) + Kendy can you push this if its okay - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/14979 + Darker measurement numbers for the ruler (Jay) + One for you kendy :D - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90205 * New Draw UI (Jay) + changes are in - drawing tools, toolbars + was able to change the size of the pages pane, but not possible to hide it + hopefully Rishabh will be able to change that + the Navigator should be made more useful / usable + Jay has a plan for that + Jay will provide the layout & mockup + Shapes sidebar will be a topic for Friday * Icon Updates / Issues + Problems + Tango and sifr are having problems and are falling back on galaxy rather than industrial and parent links.txt (Jay) AI: + will create a bugreport (Jay) + Tango + Updated a number of icons (Jay) + Latest status of updates available here (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing + Sifr + Updated a number of icons (Jay) + Created a google doc with what things are pending to partially complete it and shared with Mathias and Ahmed (Jay) https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing + Breeze (Andreas/Jay) + Pushed another round of updates as Andreas isnt able to get gerrit working (Jay) + Andreas published a blog on the icons being close to completion https://kdeonlinux.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/breeze-love-libre-office/ + Breeze will be bundled with 4.4 for next month's Kubuntu 15.04 release which uses Plasma 5 http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libreoffice.png + Update log between Jay and Andreas on improvements https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing + should we use that by default on Windows 8 and 10? (Jay) + technically not a problem to detect (Kendy) + fits Metro, but not the general Windows look (Jay/Heiko) + conclusion: let's not do it for the moment + breeze now more complete than Sifr, should switch the fallack (Jay) AI: + yep (Kendy) + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions + nothing new * CMIS / online documents mockup (Heiko/Jay) + blogpost posted + several comments + google 2-step authentication + wording suggestions + search functionality + integration into the system file dialog + the comments did not uncover any blocker, may be addressed during implementation * Insert Special Character (Heiko/Jay) + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PxkIpkzgWF1cX9oQmBhjiTBhUXvUEqbz06Bn4hzbF54/edit?usp=sharing + no comments, can go ahead with the blog post (Heiko) + 2 possible solutions AI: + publish that (Heiko) + the advanced solution: OCR-like graphics search + the user draws the sign, and the character will be found based on that * Friday's design session (Jay) + 1pm UTC + this week's theme: Shapes sidebar https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sv3Q-XdnHElYGXX2m8OLbRAy1zyodcU231Gn2SkVRV0/edit?usp=sharing * Backlog of discussions that need a resolution: + Darker outlines in slide layout previews (Jay, Adolfo) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89724 https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=114351 + 4.4 uses #bcbdbf and 4.5 uses #d0d0d0 for the border outlines of areas (Jay) + seems it would be good to add screenshots (Kendy) + done (Jay) + visually, the 4.5 looks nice - the gradient is nice!, but the contrast is low :-( (Kendy) + problem for people with visual problems (Kendy) + can we use the color that is used for the border - it is darker (?) (Kendy) + Tango has 3 levels of gray, still possible to use Tango color that is darker (Jay) + conclusion: Revisit with Adolfo...