Design/Meetings/2015-03-25

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    Minutes

    Apr 03, 2015; 1:46pm Jan Holesovsky
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-03-25 [now really :-)]
    
    * Present: Heiko, Ibrahim (joined later), Jay, Kendy
     
    * Completed Action Items:
     
        + Default document view for Writer, single page rather than automatic
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001
            + Stuart: Change the default to single page
            + Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or "Multiple page view"
              [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would be great to get that to gerrit]
              AI: Stuart -- figure it out and get it posted.
     
    * Pending Action Items:
     
        + Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and Grammar'
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648
        + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus
        + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile
        + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
        + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
        + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
        + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
            + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
              and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128)
                + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
        + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794
             + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
     
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
     
        + Draw's new UI (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90090
            + Only thing pending is opening the sidebar by default
        + Removal of direct formatting from context menu (Jay)
            + Kendy can you push this if its okay - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/14979
        + Darker measurement numbers for the ruler (Jay)
            + One for you kendy :D - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90205
     
    * New Draw UI (Jay)
     
        + changes are in - drawing tools, toolbars
        + was able to change the size of the pages pane, but not possible to hide it
            + hopefully Rishabh will be able to change that
        + the Navigator should be made more useful / usable
            + Jay has a plan for that
            + Jay will provide the layout & mockup
     
        + Shapes sidebar will be a topic for Friday
     
    * Icon Updates / Issues
     
        + Problems
            + Tango and sifr are having problems and are falling back on galaxy rather than industrial and parent links.txt (Jay)
    AI:     + will create a bugreport (Jay)
     
        + Tango
            + Updated a number of icons (Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + Sifr
            + Updated a number of icons (Jay)
            + Created a google doc with what things are pending to partially complete it and shared with Mathias and Ahmed (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + Pushed another round of updates as Andreas isnt able to get gerrit working (Jay)
            + Andreas published a blog on the icons being close to completion
              https://kdeonlinux.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/breeze-love-libre-office/
            + Breeze will be bundled with 4.4 for next month's Kubuntu 15.04 release which uses Plasma 5
              http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/libreoffice.png
            + Update log between Jay and Andreas on improvements
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
            + should we use that by default on Windows 8 and 10? (Jay)
                + technically not a problem to detect (Kendy)
                + fits Metro, but not the general Windows look (Jay/Heiko)
                + conclusion: let's not do it for the moment
            + breeze now more complete than Sifr, should switch the fallack (Jay)
    AI:         + yep (Kendy)
     
        + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
            + nothing new
     
    * CMIS / online documents mockup (Heiko/Jay)
     
        + blogpost posted
        + several comments
            + google 2-step authentication
            + wording suggestions
            + search functionality
            + integration into the system file dialog
     
        + the comments did not uncover any blocker, may be addressed during implementation
     
    * Insert Special Character (Heiko/Jay)
     
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PxkIpkzgWF1cX9oQmBhjiTBhUXvUEqbz06Bn4hzbF54/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + no comments, can go ahead with the blog post (Heiko)
            + 2 possible solutions
    AI:     + publish that (Heiko)
     
        + the advanced solution: OCR-like graphics search
            + the user draws the sign, and the character will be found based on that
     
    * Friday's design session (Jay)
     
        + 1pm UTC
        + this week's theme: Shapes sidebar
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sv3Q-XdnHElYGXX2m8OLbRAy1zyodcU231Gn2SkVRV0/edit?usp=sharing
     
    * Backlog of discussions that need a resolution:
     
        + Darker outlines in slide layout previews (Jay, Adolfo)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89724
          https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=114351
            + 4.4 uses #bcbdbf and 4.5 uses #d0d0d0 for the border outlines of areas (Jay)
            + seems it would be good to add screenshots (Kendy)
                + done (Jay)
            + visually, the 4.5 looks nice - the gradient is nice!, but the contrast is low :-( (Kendy)
                + problem for people with visual problems (Kendy)
            + can we use the color that is used for the border - it is darker (?) (Kendy)
                + Tango has 3 levels of gray, still possible to use Tango color that is darker (Jay)
            + conclusion: Revisit with Adolfo...