Design/Meetings/2015-07-01

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    Jul 02, 2015; 2:38pm Jan Holesovsky-4
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-07-01
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    * Present: Heiko, Jay, Marek, Mattias, Kendy, Steve
    
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
    
        + Many new and updated Breeze, Galaxy and Sifr icons (Andreas)
        + Sifr improvements (Matthias)
        + Improve chart formatting toolbar (Jay)
        + Better linting of .ui files (Rosemary)
        + Darker background for master view (Bubli)
        + Move away accidental tango_testing icons (Andreas)
        + Hide master slide button in the toolbar (Jay)
        + Minor fixes to the reorganized menus (Jay)
        + Improved sidebar selection analyser for Calc and Draw/Impress (Rishab)
        + New colors for the startcenter (Kendy)
     
    * LibreOffice Conference
     
        + September 23-25, 2015, Aarhus, Denmark
        + http://conference.libreoffice.org/2015/call-for-papers/
        + would be great to have you all there :-) - please submit a paper!
     
    * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
    
        + Breeze icons appearing in Sifr navigator (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91379
          screenshot 4.4 vs 5.0 - https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115723
            + found, commented in the bug (Kendy)
     
        + Icons to push into 5.0 if not already pushed (Jay)
          http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=ff06895b3e3a664c2238e358c02ae5b755e2ce06
            + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16635/ seems not to be in libreoffice-5-0
                + cherry-picked that as https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16666/
     
        + Limit to making changes to icons in 5.0 (Jay)
          https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16542/
          Adolfo and Norbert have diffferent opinion on this
            + the problem is that the tango_testing icons shouldn't have been there in the first place (Jay)
            + change is in a theme that is not default on any platform (Kendy)
                + not affecting any documentation etc.
                + and are fixes - improves at least the fallback for now
                + Andreas woring on the real Sifr icons there - to be pushed later
            + in general - for large changes that affect very visible areas, they need to be synced with ESC / triple-reviewed
                + but for normal / small fixes, the usual rules apply (1 review is enough until the last RC)
     
        + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
            + Papamatti has pushed new icons (Jay)
            + Andreas will create new chart icons (Jay)
     
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
            + Andreas has pushed some changes (Jay)
     
        + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
            + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
     
    * Templates Competition (Jay)
     
        + Wiki page setup
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Templates_for_LibreOffice_5.0
        + 5 templates submitted so far
     
        + 1st round of review the next meeting, please check beforehand :-)
     
    * LibreOffice 5.0 splash + start center + about box new theme (Kendy)
     
        + vote is ongoing in the Visual Identity group
            + results will be tomorrow, then finalized for the next RC
        + implementation of the new colors for the start center ongoing (Kendy)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452#c45
     
    * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
     
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
     
        + have written the sidebar discussion
            + some replies on that (Heiko)
            + discussion of the replios (Heiko/Jay)
                + accepted / commented the changes
        + will publish tomorrow (Heiko)
     
        + next steps: dialogs
     
    * Next Friday's design session (Jay)
     
        + Friday session this week
            + dialogs are next
            + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00 UTC
     
        + List of possible future topics
            + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
            + Steve wants the sidebar "configuration menu" icon gone: "it's useless confusing, thus user unfriendly,
              creates frustration and clutters the UI."
              https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824
     
    * Changing the gradient toolbars to single color on Mac (Jay)
     
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92359
          https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=116924
            + hard to do it without a physical access to a mac :-( (Kendy)
            + https://imgur.com/U8Gfqi6,lXXO7sb,P9bGLkv (steve)
        + Office 2016 - http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2015/03/excel-100571705-orig.png
            + Microsoft doesnt use mac gradient in ribbon tabs (Jay)
        + can TDF provide a mac for a developer who'd work on this? (Steve)
            + temporarily eg.
            + i have an extra mac that devs can teamview into for building/testing
     
    * Toolbar less prone to editing (Marek)
     
        + see http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/lock-the-taskbar
        + there is a "Lock toolbar position" (Jay)
            + would be enough to do that a default
        + please create a bugreport for that (Jay)
            + will do (Marek)
            + add to the catogory 'ux-advise'
        + dragging pieces of the toolbar should be platform-specific (Heiko)
            + no system definition for this though (Jay)
        + adding a specific 'lock' button or something would be confusing (Heiko)
     
    * Insert deck or panel (Marek)
     
        + for inserting objects from the sidebar (Marek)
        + sidebar primarily for properties, not for insertion, that is supposed to be in the standard toolbar (Jay)
            + discussed at length in the HIG's (Jay)
     
    * Quick access toolbar (marek)
     
        + https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee354410.aspx
        + Created by microsoft as they have tabs and a number of file buttons are hidden in the tabs (Jay)
        + if you want to try to prototype that, no problem with that from the code point of view (Kendy)
        + problem is that you'd be creating an own UI that would be platform-specific (Jay)
            + so it would be very limiting
            + not possible to share the code between eg. windows and Gtk3 (Kendy)
            + but of course, if you want to mock-up something, go for that (Jay)
     
    * Easy hacks for Marek (Jay)
     
        + spell dialog auto-closing - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79312
        + 'Go to Page' dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83054