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Minutes
Oct 16, 2015; 12:01pm Jan Holesovsky-4
Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-14
* Present: Cor, Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Samuel
* UI changes integrated the last week:
+ Enable auto-numbering by default
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94994
+ previously enabled, then disabled, and now enabled again
+ I remember - not good in the current state (Kendy)
+ if we want to enable it again, then first let's collect what turns into
numbering + how it is triggered, and let's go through the use cases there (Kendy)
AI: + OK, will revert for now + provide the list (Samuel)
+ remote files related improvements (Szymon)
+ icons recoloring (Tomaž)
+ 32x32 icons for hi-contrast (Andreas)
* Annual report (Jay)
+ Sophi asked that we fill in any links to minutes, blog posts, etc.
http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport
+ more info needed, will ask Sophie (Jay)
+ for the reference, report from the last year:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/4/47/TDF2014AnnualReport.pdf
* Table styles (Kendy)
+ would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
+ already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
+ 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy)
+ more discussion about the proposal (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
+ afraid of too many elements there (Heiko)
+ will have a follow-up Friday session - to define the general approach to the
table propeties, style etc. - in the sidebar (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
+ should we eg. remove the table toolbar (that appears when the cursor gets into a table, etc.)
+ where to put the table styles - to such a sidebar? to styles & formatting?
+ etc.
* Last week's design session (Heiko/Jay)
+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
+ not published yet
* Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
+ redmine ticket: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505
* Bug discussions
+ Scale all objects proportionally by default, not only images?
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71669#c26
+ (see as well bug wrt. proportional scaling with side handles #84953)
+ can check other suites (Jay)
+ Word, WPS, and Calligra all have non-proportional
+ but otherwise people generally happy with the images (keep aspect ratio) vs. shapes (don't keep)
approach (Cor/Kendy/Samuel)
+ but maybe some more research / checking the use cases might be good
* NotebookBar (Samuel)
+ http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?h=feature/notebookbar
+ NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy)
+ full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file
+ an optional thing for users (Samuel)
+ menus + toolbars the default
+ Notebookbar an optional thing
+ probably via an option in the View menu
+ long term, will be a source of some Easy Hacks (Samuel)
+ now just laying down the foundations, later more discussion needed (Samuel)
+ can insert new stuff via glade
+ enough to specify the .uno: command, the icon + text is imported from the appropriate
officecfg xml
+ Screenshot so far: http://i.imgur.com/RUUTiuk.png
+ next (Samuel):
+ more structure needed now (so that it is not one monter .ui file)
+ priorities of widgets - container that hides stuff when the screen size does not fit
+ theming
+ target: 5.2 (earliest)
+ is it already in master? (Jay)
+ in branch so far (Kendy/Samuel)
+ but hidden via an env. variable - so can merge it to master (Samuel)
+ let's merge it then, keep the env. variable (Jay/Kendy)
+ and the View menu entry when it is more polished
+ keep in mind the HIG (Heiko)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
+ mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko)
+ eg. grouping
+ possible with Notebookbar
* Help updating (Kendy)
+ new patches, would be great to have a new release (Jay)
+ will do (Kendy)
+ help-related meta bugs:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
+ wikihelp? (Jay)
+ help proposal
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing
+ idea to use xml editor (Kendy)
+ steps needed:
+ hooks on help.libreoffice.org redirecting to editable page
+ per-user session - own git checkout
+ some way of editing - either the xml help or the xml <-> html mapping
+ commit creation in the git + push to gerrit
+ overall - like the idea to have some infra on top of the current help,
easier than the entire editable wiki (Kendy)
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
+ Should svgs be stored in repo and pngs created at build time (Samuel)
+ let's not do that (Kendy)
+ inkscape need several seconds per image, and we have ~1000 images per theme
+ such pngs are not optimized, optipng needs another tens of seconds
+ still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
+ Samuel will look at one of them
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
+ easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and
put to images_tango.zip
+ one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565
tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945
galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516
+ Sifr & breeze for dark themes
+ bug report created (Jay)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632
+ Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)
+ screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119614
+ Elementary icon theme added to git by Bjoern (Jay)
+ but not enabled by default
+ images_human.zip to be placed in /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlTjBkSlJOY01RV3M/view?usp=sharing
+ Human theme in Ubuntu outdated (Jay)
+ Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
+ Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
+ Cleaning all duplicates and putting in links.txt (Andreas)
+ Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
+ Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
+ Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014
* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)
+ Friday session this week (Oct/16)
+ 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC
+ Table styles continued
+ List of possible future topics
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing