Design/Meetings/2015-10-21

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    Minutes

    Oct 28, 2015; 12:54pm Jan Holesovsky-4
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-21
    
    * Present: Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Tomaz, Stuart
    
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
    
        + Enable auto-numbering by default reverted for now (Samuel)
        + First/last button in the Calc tab bar (Tomaž)
        + NotebookBar proof-of-concept pushed (Kendy)
        + alt-x support to math (Justin)
        + more 32px Breeze icons (Andreas)
        + Appearance -> Application Colors (Adolfo)
        + initial "Home" NotebookBar tab proof-of-concept (Samuel)
        + make sidebar toolboxs item order RTL sensitive (Bubli)
    
    * Table styles (Kendy)
     
        + would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
            + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
            + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
            + 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy)
        + more discussion about the proposal (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
            + afraid of too many elements there (Heiko)
    
        + what's the game plan there? (Jay)
            + ODF export first, then ODF import, then OOXML support (Kendy)
            + but cannot promise exact timeline (Kendy)
    
        + had the Friday session about this, useful to continue the discussion there (Jay/Heiko)
            + to define the general approach to the table propeties, style etc. - in the sidebar (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
            + should we eg. remove the table toolbar (that appears when the cursor gets into a table, etc.)
            + where to put the table styles - to such a sidebar? to styles & formatting?
            + etc.
    
        + worked on the design during the meeting (Jay/Heiko)
            + reworked the dialog with an almost finished layout (for discussion with the community)
    
    * Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
     
        + Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
            + not published yet
     
    * Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
     
        + redmine ticket: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505
            + pending on infra
     
    * Bug discussions
     
        + none this week
    
    * NotebookBar (Samuel)
    
        + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
            + screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png
            + NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy)
            + full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file
            + an optional thing for users (Samuel)
                + menus + toolbars the default
        + now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)
    
        + keep in mind the HIG (Heiko)
            + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
            + mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko)
                + eg. grouping
                    + possible with Notebookbar
                    + eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?
    
       + tabs make toolbars context depending which is against the use case of toolbars (Heiko)
           + strucutring the toolbar with labeled groups and perhaps different sized buttons make sense
           + the tabs from the current notebookbar should stay a menubar (Heiko)
    
    * Help updating (Kendy)
     
        + new patches, would be great to have a new release (Jay)
            + will do, this time really :-) (Kendy)
     
        + help-related meta bugs:
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
        + wikihelp? (Jay)
            + help proposal
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing
                + idea to use xml editor (Kendy)
                + steps needed:
                    + hooks on help.libreoffice.org redirecting to editable page
                    + per-user session - own git checkout
                    + some way of editing - either the xml help or the xml <-> html mapping
                    + commit creation in the git + push to gerrit
                + overall - like the idea to have some infra on top of the current help,
                  easier than the entire editable wiki (Kendy)
     
    * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
    
        + Should svgs be stored in repo and pngs created at build time (Samuel)
            + Fast svg import hack working (Tomaz)
     
        + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
            + Samuel will look at one of them
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
                + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and
                  put to images_tango.zip
                + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565
              tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945
              galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516
    
            + Icons not appearing in help viewer's web view
              https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82149
     
        + Sifr & breeze for dark themes
            + bug report created (Jay)
              https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632
            + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)
                + screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119614
     
        + Elementary icon theme added to git by Bjoern (Jay)
            + but not enabled by default
            + images_human.zip to be placed in /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/
               https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6qJrVIa0SAlTjBkSlJOY01RV3M/view?usp=sharing
            + Human theme in Ubuntu outdated (Jay)
     
        + Asking Gnome team for help with Tango (Jay)
          https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162
    
        + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
            + First batch of 32px icons added (Jay) - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19616/
     
        + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
            + 32px icons completed (Andreas)
     
        + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
            + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
            + Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014
     
    * Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)
     
        + Friday session this week (Oct/16)
            + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC
            + Table styles continued
     
        + List of possible future topics
            + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
    
    * Templates
    
        + Need code pointers to fix small template thumbnails in start center (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89095