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http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-11-18-tc4167411.html
Minutes
Nov 25, 2015; 3:24pm
Jan Holesovsky-4 Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-11-18
[the meeting on 11th was cancelled]
* Present: Cor, Heiko, Kendy, Samuel
* UI changes integrated the last two weeks:
+ form-related controls ta insert and tools menu (Jay)
+ hierarchical organization of slide transitions (Tor)
+ and new slide transitions (Tor, Tomaž)
+ title for image export options dialog (Jay)
+ fix accelerators in start center (Kendy)
+ loading .svg images from image resources (Tomaž)
+ "hide whitespace" improvements (Ashod)
+ new Outline button (Maxim)
+ missing an icon
+ context menu customization (Maxim)
+ new PopupLabel property for uno commands (Maxim)
+ new TooltipLabel property for uno commands (Samuel)
+ shortcut keys missing in undo and redo tooltips (Samuel)
+ tdf#34882 Adding hex and decimal code search (Steve Hart)
+ Impress: Rework the way the display modes are presented (Philippe)
* Update the meeting time (Kendy)
+ Please fill the Doodle until the next meeting (Wed 25th, November 2015):
http://doodle.com/poll/d4b628cgxanrvmka
* Table styles (Kendy)
+ would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
+ already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
+ pending publishing
+ some thing still can be discussed
* Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
+ not published yet
* Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
+ https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/
+ now set up, admins, thank you!
+ Heiko, Jay, Kendy have the credentials
+ Heiko can start writing a post
+ how to reference the author etc.? (Heiko)
+ not possible to have a named posting (Heiko)
+ best to poke the admins - awerner set this up for us (Kendy)
+ will ask for some plugins that will be useful (Heiko)
* Bug discussions
+ none this week
* NotebookBar (Samuel)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
+ screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png
+ NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy)
+ full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file
+ an optional thing for users (Samuel)
+ menus + toolbars the default
+ now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)
+ keep in mind the HIG (Heiko)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
+ mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful here (Heiko)
+ eg. grouping
+ possible with Notebookbar
+ eg. http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?
+ loading the toolbars from glade (.ui) instead of .xcu files
+ this will probably remove the possibility to make the toolbars floating (Kendy)
+ but that is good (Cor, Kendy)
+ can have more sets of toolbars with this (Cor)
+ Will have a friday session on NotebookBar topic on Fr 27th
+ Please have a look at the following links until then: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar#Resources
* Help updating (Kendy)
+ released a new release (Kendy)
+ online modification prototype (Jay)
+ Liongold on IRC working on that
+ will share that with Jay, and can iterate
+ need a VM from the infra to host the prototype
+ will create another ticket for this (Jay)
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1584
+ would be great to put the code to a repository (Kendy)
+ dev-tools (some subdir there) (Kendy)
+ or a new repo - eg. on github as a start? (Kendy)
+ dev-tools preferred though
+ help-related meta bugs:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
+ icons for slide transitions needed (Kendy)
+ 32pixel sifr icons
+ first 2 from Pappamatti
+ reminded him to push svg too (Jay)
+ to use the Tomaž's code
+ Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
+ Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
+ Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014
+ add a "extra large" entry
+ still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
+ Samuel will look at one of them
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
+ easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and
put to images_tango.zip
+ one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565
tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945
galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516
+ Sifr & Breeze for dark themes
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94632
+ Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)
+ Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
+ trying to reach out to the Gnome guys (Jay)
+ https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=757162
+ Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
+ Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
+ Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
+ 32px icons completed (Andreas)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/LibreOffice/32px%20support/images_breeze.zip
goes into /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/
* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)
+ Friday session this week (Nov/27)
+ 1:00pm CEST / 12:00am UTC
+ property dialogs (Heiko / Jay)
+ notebookbar
+ List of possible future topics
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
+ Friday session - NotebookBar
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pt1Psa4YDVwFOdYlLl6TXaK5LIK2uf1RKJk1UOTLsWg/edit?usp=sharing
+ glade introduction would be useful (Heiko)
+ best practices etc. (Heiko)
+ happy to do that, but cannot this week :-( (Kendy)
* User statistics
+ add a env. var for triggering this too - is that possible (Jay)
+ easy to do (Kendy)
+ store to a text file rather than standard error (Jay)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95505
+ easy to do too (Kendy)
+ additional data collection
+ add timestamp and collect each and every action as it in order to analyze the sequence (e.g. which function is mostly followed by undo)
+ add document info to track the workflows document based
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1a2TcTztqMauFwM7DV1smhu85TdTXKxxTiSf7W3clhZc/edit
+ could be a theme for the Friday session this week
+ TDF tender?
+ currently there's not enough good concept (Heiko)
+ willing to frame it better at the Friday session (UX)