Design/Meetings/2017-03-30

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    Minutes

    Mar 30, 2017; 6:36am Heiko Tietze-2
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2017-Mar-30
    
    +++++ MEETING TIME IS 13:00 CEST / 11am UTC DURING THE SUMMER AND BEGINNING FROM NEXT WEEK +++++
    
    Present: Eric, Thibaut, Jay, Heiko, Kendy, Tomaz
    
     * New meeting time as DST begins?
       + Thursday 13:00 CEST / 11am UTC: voted +4/-1
       => New meeting time is 11am UTC
     
     * LibOCon 27.-29. Sep Rome
       + We will have a UX room
       + do a design session to a specific topic?
       + mockup seesion (Jay)
         + Bibliography (first choice)
         + 3D dialog
         + Custom shapes
       + Share results from UE testting at Nantes (Eric)
         + also talk about redesign of features
    
     * LibO mascot
       + Introduce a unique identification beyond the logo that can be modified within constraints
         since our logo is fix and must not be changed (idea started at the BoD)
       + list of mascots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mascot
       + Java: Duke https://kenai.com/projects/duke/pages/Home
         + Prototype for the idea (logo is the coffee icon, duke added later as the mascot)
       + SuSE: chameleon "geeko"
       + Mozilla: lizard, godzilla, tyrannosaurus (FF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox#Trademark_and_logo)
       + Linux: tux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux
       + KDE: konqi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konqi
       + Krita: kiki https://krita.org/en/kiki/
       + GNU: GNU head https://www.gnu.org/graphics/agnuhead.en.html
       + mising a kitten under all the animals, like grumpy cat (Heiko)
    
       + Metaphors
         + worldwide product, make sure it works for all (Thibaut)
         + freedom, documents, open (Jay)
           + pideon / another bird?
           + or a more symbolic thing
         + superhero
         + crazy combination of superhero and animal (Thibaut)
         + something with edges to align with the logo (Heiko)
       + Process: internally ask for input on ML, later involve designers, e.g. OSD group
       + better we have some time to be creative (Thibaut)
    
     * Make LibreOffice design unique (Thibaut)
       + Ticket: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106756
       + Previously mentioned in as 'Application Theme' GSoC project
         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J_aogLuQThqhvT0R2em27Vpew-SLAQgpH5TbNTgXPZM/edit
         + would be the solution to swtich from themed to "default"
       + generic theme update makes much sense, but that needs dev work as it is hard-coded (kendy)
         (SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen ./soffice to enable
          or SAL_NO_NWF=1 to still use the detected vclplugin but no native theming)
       + only way to introduce a new generic design is to make it working in parallel first
       + themes might be text based on Gtk (Jay); Gtk3 uses CSS for theming (Tomaz)
       + someone with development skills needs to look into the topic
       + wish to have all themes via CSS, or the like (Heiko)
    
     * Color
       + New default color palette https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87538
         + survey done, analyzed and comment included into the final layout
           + https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/173uYSPE1TPaZdCL997YyQLllRt2xBIV4oD5M3Bjo7yU
           + finalization planned for the weekend
         + We have 1 grey scale, 1 basic colors, 3 light, and 4 dark now -> should we change to
           8 rows by default (and have 1/1/3/3)? (Jay)
           + No idea why it's bad (Thibaut)
           + tonal.soc has 10 rows so better add one (1/1/4/4)?
           + having less colors is good was commented in the survey
           => go with 10 rows (https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/35902/)
       + Extension to export the custom palette done and blogged about
         + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/03/29/libreoffice-extension-export-custom-palette/