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Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design/UX Meeting: 2017-Jul-27
From: Heiko Tietze <>
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:05:59 +0200
To: LibO Design <>
Present: Tomaz, Eric, Heiko


* Participation in the design meeting declined
+ no response to the question last week
+ will ask people directly what we can improve
+ Bubli: criticizing the missing technical background of proposals
+ Samuel: lunch time around 13, preference is 9-11 or 14-16
+ Tomaz/Eric: it's okay but vacation time during summer
+ Eric: maybe better advertise the meeting to the community

* New survey planned about LibreOffice Aspects
+ preview at
+ How many extensions did you install? / Do you install LibreOffice extensions on your system? (Andreas)
+ Do you install the local help? (Heiko)
+ Did you read a tutorial/book/...? (Heiko)
+ Office suits: distinguish between online/offline (e.g. +Office 365) (Eric)
+ Use of mobile version (Tomaz)

* How about a survey on Calc, Impress, or Writer with open questions like for Draw?
+ thumbs up


* Change sidebar deck label 'Properties' to 'Formatting' (cont'd)
+ "Attributes" has no advantage; how about Inkscape's 'Document Properties'
=> rename "Style and Formatting" into "Styles"
=> keep "Properties" (too much fuss)

* Switch default to 16:9 in Impress/Draw
+ good idea (Heiko), bad idea (Jay)
+ introduce a user setting or remember the last setting (Heiko)
+ perhaps make it dependent on the actual screen dimension (Eric)
+ run a quick poll (Eric)
=> postpone the decision

* Width of font name field at Writer's standard toolbar
+ well-designed to fit the total app width; only room for a few pixels
+ possible solutions:
+ dynamic tooltip: maybe not easy (Tomaz)
+ splitter: also not a quick fix (Tomaz)
=> WFM because of workaround in the sidebar

* Terminology for master slides in Impress
+ Master Slide (Heiko, Sophie)
+ code pointers are easy to find (xml for menu, ui for sidebar) (Tomaz)
=> change into Master Slide

* New layout in Impress
+ white-space is not bad (Heiko)
=> new layouts would be nice

* Pivot table, refresh all
+ 'Refresh All' under Data > Pivot Table would be easy to implement (Tomaz)
+ Not done automatically because operation may take some seconds (Tomaz)
+ But Excel has an option to enable automatic updates (Tomaz)
+ Better solution than refreshing on data change is to update when the user enters the pivot sheet (Heiko)
+ Duration is not known (no progress bar possible) and cannot get interrupted (Tomaz)
+ Users asked for macro to refresh all tables (Eric)
+ Macros wouldn't know if the pivot table needs an update (Tomaz)
+ Not the best solution; users can't know if a table is not up-to-date and needs refresh
=> go with a macro, meaning WFM
=> new ticket with a good solution

Dr. Heiko Tietze
UX designer
Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509