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    Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design/UX Meeting: 2017-Jul-27
    From: Heiko Tietze <>
    Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:05:59 +0200
    To: LibO Design <>
    Present: Tomaz, Eric, Heiko
    * Participation in the design meeting declined
    + no response to the question last week
    + will ask people directly what we can improve
    + Bubli: criticizing the missing technical background of proposals
    + Samuel: lunch time around 13, preference is 9-11 or 14-16
    + Tomaz/Eric: it's okay but vacation time during summer
    + Eric: maybe better advertise the meeting to the community
    * New survey planned about LibreOffice Aspects
    + preview at
    + How many extensions did you install? / Do you install LibreOffice extensions on your system? (Andreas)
    + Do you install the local help? (Heiko)
    + Did you read a tutorial/book/...? (Heiko)
    + Office suits: distinguish between online/offline (e.g. +Office 365) (Eric)
    + Use of mobile version (Tomaz)
    * How about a survey on Calc, Impress, or Writer with open questions like for Draw?
    + thumbs up
    * Change sidebar deck label 'Properties' to 'Formatting' (cont'd)
    + "Attributes" has no advantage; how about Inkscape's 'Document Properties'
    => rename "Style and Formatting" into "Styles"
    => keep "Properties" (too much fuss)
    * Switch default to 16:9 in Impress/Draw
    + good idea (Heiko), bad idea (Jay)
    + introduce a user setting or remember the last setting (Heiko)
    + perhaps make it dependent on the actual screen dimension (Eric)
    + run a quick poll (Eric)
    => postpone the decision
    * Width of font name field at Writer's standard toolbar
    + well-designed to fit the total app width; only room for a few pixels
    + possible solutions:
    + dynamic tooltip: maybe not easy (Tomaz)
    + splitter: also not a quick fix (Tomaz)
    => WFM because of workaround in the sidebar
    * Terminology for master slides in Impress
    + Master Slide (Heiko, Sophie)
    + code pointers are easy to find (xml for menu, ui for sidebar) (Tomaz)
    => change into Master Slide
    * New layout in Impress
    + white-space is not bad (Heiko)
    => new layouts would be nice
    * Pivot table, refresh all
    + 'Refresh All' under Data > Pivot Table would be easy to implement (Tomaz)
    + Not done automatically because operation may take some seconds (Tomaz)
    + But Excel has an option to enable automatic updates (Tomaz)
    + Better solution than refreshing on data change is to update when the user enters the pivot sheet (Heiko)
    + Duration is not known (no progress bar possible) and cannot get interrupted (Tomaz)
    + Users asked for macro to refresh all tables (Eric)
    + Macros wouldn't know if the pivot table needs an update (Tomaz)
    + Not the best solution; users can't know if a table is not up-to-date and needs refresh
    => go with a macro, meaning WFM
    => new ticket with a good solution
    Dr. Heiko Tietze
    UX designer
    Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509