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Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design/UX meeting 2017-Sep-07
From: Heiko Tietze <>
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 17:00:19 +0200
To: LibO Design <>
Present: Eric, Samuel, Yousuf, Stuart, Heiko


* Ideas for team metrics
+ we have #comments/actions on BZ, visits at our blog, participation in meetings
+ ideas:
+ Subscriptions on ML
+ Time to commit
+ Telegram members
+ anything else?

* Numbering & Bullets, Outline
+ Usability testing done (Eric)
+ translated:
+ will prepare a short presentation (Eric)
+ have a design session on Friday afternoon in 2 or 3 weeks
+ Doodle for design session -->


* Change default of reference to illustration from page to number
+ WontFix because the issue is the workflow not the default (Heiko)
+ rename to plural forms
+ probably more than just changing references but adding the logic to separate between objects (Stuart)
=> yes 2, maybe 3, so take Thomas' suggestion

* Fields (actually cross-references) in the sidebar
+ WontFix because because dialog and toolbar are sufficient for all scenarios (Heiko)
=> agreed to Wontfix

* Access to master elements per sidebar in Impress
+ disagree with having those rarely changed properties in the sidebar (Heiko)
=> no reason to put master elements in the sidebar

* Embedded palette
+ WontFix because or rather unclear use case (Heiko)
+ Cor reopened and set needsUX again
+ Document colors are the better choice (Heiko)
+ Document colors isnt fully working (Jay)
+ Document colors not necesarily covers all branding colors (Stuart)
+ Solution is to allow palettes to be added using extension manager (Jay)
+ How to include the template (Eric) -> likely via template dialog (Jay)
+ Scope: all modules where templates work
+ Persistance: palette is cleared when teh template is closed
=> introduce a 'template palette' (better name needed)
modifiable in the area fill tab/dialog (Jay) <- please not (Heiko)

* Introduce 'lift caps' additional to drop caps
+ good idea (Heiko)
+ better naming for drop caps needed (Stuart) - "Inital" perhaps
=> follow W3C CSS working group nomenclature (103997#c15) on original 70180