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    Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX meeting 2017-Sep-14
    From: Heiko Tietze <>
    Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 16:56:54 +0200
    To: LibO Design <>
    Present: Jay, Stuart, Heiko
    * LibreOffice Open Source aspects
    + published:
    * Design Session planned about numbering/bullets
    + Doodle for design session -->
    + please at least enter your name if no time is good for you
    * Guideline for dropdown selection
    + see also
    + Proposed HIG draft:
    + When the combobox/dropdown is on the main form, changes should not become effective until the user
    leaves the control, or collapses the open widget.
    + On secondary dialogs changes are applied immediately, e.g. when another list entry is selected by
    mouse wheel or arrow keys.
    + reasons: performance, don't care but MS doesn't function that way, safety as changes may not be intended
    + better always update immediately on any change (Heiko)
    + live preview is available in secondary dialogs (Jay)
    => keep the status quo and write HIG; but deveval first
    + Rulers for margins instead of padding
    + current way is useful (Stuart, Jay)
    => design additional ruler "modes", responding to object content (e.g. padding)
    provide configuration (component View or Expert config) to toggle ruler behavior
    Dr. Heiko Tietze
    UX designer
    Tel. +49 (0)179/1268509