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Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design/UX meeting 2017-Nov-22
From: Heiko Tietze <>
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 21:26:35 +0100
To: LibO Design <>

Present: Thomas, Csongor, Jay, Heiko

* Vertical alignment of images anchored as character
+ screenshot -
+ WF because alignment depend on use case; center is as good as top (Heiko, Csongor)
+ Top is better than centered, ideally first line at top, last at bottom (Thomas)
=> no objection but not worth the effort

* Toggle read access at statusbar
+ no need for this feature in the sb => WF (Heiko)
+ use case: multiple open documents where some are secured by the function (Csongor)
+ 2x pro the suggestion, 1x no opinion, 1x con
=> go

* Shortcut for Double Underline in all modules
+ if we do that it requires to switch from ctrl+D to shift+ctrl+U in Writer (Heiko)
+ advantage of consistency but have a better shortcut (Thomas)
=> go with shift+ctrl+U for double underline for all modules

* Change string from 'Left' to 'Default' or 'Start' or code 'Right' entry
=> postponed for Stuart

* Removal of tango, breeze and libreoffice palettes
+ at least LibreOffice should remain as it is our branding (Heiko)
+ Thomas, Jay pro cleaning up
+ keep LibO, remove Tango/Breeze (Csongor)
+ better names for LibO? (Thomas)
+ idea has been refused last year
=> keep going

* Removal of Open Sans, PT_Serif, Source Sans/Code fonts (Jay)
+ ESC were against removing of Libertine and DejaVu
+ would still like to remove Open Sans, PT_Serif, Source Sans Pro
and Source Code that were added in 4.0 and 4.4 now that we are
bundling Noto Sans and Noto Serif families.
+ we dont bundle Source Serif Pro as it isnt available in italics
+ like many different fonts (Csongor)
+ hate many different fonts, esp. when not installed via distro management (Heiko)
+ no opinion, don't like too much very similar fonts (Thomas)
+ be mindful of fallback for unique glyphs, U+1f512 for example--Source Code Pro our only location (Stuart)
+ what did we do before Source Code Pro was added in 4.0? (Jay)
+ shove them into OpenSymbol, the Emoji support has been painful (Stuart)
=> AI: ESC should confirm removal of the three

* Optimal column width
(auto size behavior, "style" instead of direct formatting)
(table properties: col sizing tedious)
+ solution could include UI proposal from
+ Working With Tables in Writer -
=> would be a cool GSoC project, needs a design session
=> keep tickets but do not make small patches