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    Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting Nov/29 2017
    From: Heiko Tietze <>
    Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:16:07 +0100
    To: LibO Design <>
    Present: Csongor, Thomas, Jay, Stuart, Heiko
    * Change string from 'Left' to 'Default' or 'Start' or code 'Right' entry
    + Start better than left/right, Default is too unspecified (Thomas)
    + Better than "default" is start and end as Mozilla does (see also c15) (Stuart)
    + rename to start (Csongor)
    + default may be an issue (Stuart)
    + Start in CJK as well (Jay) -> yes (Stuart)
    + CJK uses default right now (Jay)
    + consistentcy across modules is important, but this simple lable change should be made without worrying about matcheing all at this time (Stuart)
    + Adolfo's comment c22 taken into account but for simplicity disagreed
    => do it
    * Should we change the default fonts used in Writer
    + twitter poll -
    + 125 votes
    + 37% - Sans (Head) Serif (Text) = WFM
    + 31% - Sans (Head) Sans (Text) = Green
    + 21% - Serif (Head) Sans (Text)
    + 11% - Serif (Head) Serif (Text)
    + But, any trouble with existing templates (Stuart),
    + only two templates for Writer (Jay)
    + WFM 2, Green 1, undecided 2
    => WFM
    * Double click on ruler in Write: Open Indents or Tab
    + single/double click consistency (Thomas)
    + known behavior (Mike K)
    + white part (inside margins) should open "tabs"
    + gray part (outside margins) go to "border"
    + or open page dialog's border tab(Stuart)
    + clicking the thumbs go to "indentation" (Csongor)
    + double clicking drop the tab; bug? (Stuart)
    => full acceptance
    * Module specific file types at open dialog
    + e.g. 'Spreadsheets' instead of 'All documents' in case of Calc
    + pro: Jay, Heiko, Csongor, Thomas (cross-platform issues)
    + con: Jean-Baptiste (c3,c5), Cor
    + unclear: Maxim (c10, macOS issue), Stuart
    + suggestion to have two new entries 'ODF Files' and 'Common Files'
    + people don't know what "ODF files" mean (Thomas)
    + users opening zip files or binaries in Writer is a potential security issue
    + new type "All LibreOffice files" (Csongor)
    + all libo files = every file that can be opened including png, csv, xls for example
    + adds other confusions but is a minimal improvement
    + module specific <> target specific; e.g. insert image in Writer (Stuart)
    + .uno:OpenFromWriter should show text documents, .uno:Open should show all files (Thomas)
    => 4:3 for the modificiation: Writer will list 'all documents' by default instead of
    'all files' (including binaries), Calc shows 'all spreadsheets' etc.