Design/Meetings/2018-03-21

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    Minutes

    Subject: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the design meeting 2018/Mar/21
    From: Heiko Tietze <tietze.heiko@gmail.com>
    Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 21:41:39 +0100
    To: LibO Design <design@global.libreoffice.org>
    
    Present: Stuart, Andreas, Heiko
    
    Tickets
    
    * Use character style for auto-format like *bold*
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115418
    + unclear use case and benefit (Heiko)
    + AutoCorrect options for markup strikeout and italic are added commit (Tiago Santos)
    + we would have to add default character styles for underline and strikeout first (Stuart)
    + Advantage of character style on export and we have a pedagogic mission
    + Drawback when user reconfigure the inbuilt styles; we do not have control over the actual markup correction (Heiko)
    + implement option to either have character style or direct formatting (Stuart)
    + strongly opposing to this option (Heiko)
    => WONTFIX
    
    * Improve wording of "Skip empty cells"
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116448
    + Example: source with 1,_,2 and target _,a,_ copy source and paste special over target with/wo skip
    + Options: "Skip empty source cells", "Don't override with empty cells"
    => no further opinion so lets keep the original text and add a tooltip
    "If enabled, blank cells in source will not override the target."
    
    * Remove functions "3 seconds in Insert/Delete mode" (alt+insert, alt+delete in Writer > Tables)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116452
    + https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Shortcut_Keys_for_Writer#Shortcut_Keys_for_Tables_in_LibreOffice_Writer
    + a time slot is a bad workflow; better repeat last command, make function sticky (like clone formatting), etc. (Heiko)
    + original summary needs to get adjusted; we have to decide one by one about hard-coded key combinations (Stuart)
    + no easter egg hunt
    => no disagreement, so let's go, blessing from the ESC assumed
    
    * Remove tooltips from Writer tables
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116297
    + How about a longer timeout for tooltips to appear (say, 4 seconds)? (Adolfo)
    + don't mess up with timers; should all be defined by the system but isn't actually (Heiko)
    + Transparency doesn't work (Csongor on BZ)
    + we should keep the tooltips because of accessibility (Stuart)
    => provide an expert option to not show tooltips on tables
    
    * Default icon set on Windows (or on for all builds?)
    + Windows builds better served moving them off of Tango/Galaxy legacy (Stuart)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90194 (Tango > Colibre)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115867 (Colibre)
    + planning variants in different colors but as extensions (Andreas)
    + ask the community and ship only one icon theme (Heiko)
    + reasons for one artwork only (icon theme, font, notebookbar etc.)
    # intransparent development without any user request and no clear requirement
    # removal becomes controversial with time
    # maintanence trouble
    # size of binaries
    + and deliver icon themes via extension? Not a fan... (Stuart)
    + aim for system/theme mimicry (Andreas)
    + In exchange for the new theme, file an easy hack to kill off Crystal (Adolfo)
    + we have in master Breeze, Breeze Dark, High Contrast, Sifr Dark, Tango, Elementary,
    Colibre, Sifr, Galaxy (R.I.P. Crystal since 4.x?)
    => no agreement for one theme only
    => 1a. backport to 6.0.x and optionally 1b. make Colibre the default for Windows for 6.0
    (do a big announcement with marketing)
    2. make Colibre the fallback for 6.1 and flag Crystal obsolete or move it directly into an extension
    3. include in LOOL
    => to be discussed: the future of Tango (see 90194)