Design/Meetings/2020-07-16

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    Link

    https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg09336.html

    Minutes

    Present: Rizal, Patrick, Muhammad, Sascha, Heiko
    Comments from: Csongor, Regina, Maxim
    
    Tickets/Topic
    
    * UI: Paper tray settings in Page setup seems wrong
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134642
    + not using a printer but the option was likely there since OOo (Heiko)
    + help gives example with first page on paper with companies logo
    + another example: glossy paper for pictures
    + admitted that it's weird, eg document is saved and loaded somewere else
    (Patrick)
    + nice to have if page style defines a virtual tray which is assigned to the
    printer tray at the printer dialog; different ticket though
    => NAB
    
    * Entering a table with too many columns causing Writer to lock up
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134779
    + limit the number of columns (and rows) to 99 (or 255)
    + WPS limits to 63 (Patrick)
    + it's still possible to add rows/columns before/after (Heiko)
    + just a performance issue, limitations are bad (Csongor)
    + show a warning per coloring the spin edit or per confirmation box
    => go with the colored warning
    
    * EDITING: Support fill character in a hanging indent of a paragraph
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128986
    + use case valid but implementation has it's risk (Regina)
    + don't see the use case; indentation, whether hanging or not,
    is per se white-space (Heiko)
    + w/o clear use case it's hard to decide (Patrick)
    => remove flag and suggest to resolve WF
    
    * IMPRESS: two Align submenus under Format menu (one for text, other for
    objects/shapes)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134739
    + some options (Maxim)
    a) combined UNO command
    + a lot of drawbacks
    b) dedicated Shapes root menu
    + spoils the menu structure (maybe we move Slide Show content into Slide)
    + do we have enough content for this menu?
    + a shape menu would be overkill for Impress. No need for (Rizal)
    c) rename Text Align, Shape Align
    + sounds wrong with the other items next to it
    + prefer this (Rizal, Patrick)
    + "Object Alignment"
    + would rename alignment for text (Patrick)
    + d) Remove one of the commands from the menu (object alignment) (Patrick)
    + very handy (Heiko)
    + e) Rename Alignment for one (Text -> Justification) (Heiko)
    + would affect other modules too (Patrick)
    + translates possibly to the same word (Heiko)
    + WPS has Format > Arrange > Align (objects) (Patrick)
    f) + move Align underneath Arrange
    + could work since we have toolbar widgets to align objects
    + prefer this (Sascha)
    => rename (object) alignment to "Object alignment" or move the menu
    + Commented after meeting on BZ (Patrick)
    
    * UI: Printer settings hidden under more
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134640
    + expand 'more' sections depending on screen real estate (low hanging fruit)
    + redesign dialog, see comment 13 & 14
    + horizontal aligned radio buttons scale badly with l10n
    + duplex is saving the environment and we should encourage using it (Patrick)
    => input welcome, keep it open