Design/Meetings/2020-09-16

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    Link

    https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2020/msg00111.html

    Minutes

    Present: Stuart, Sascha, Heiko
    Comments: Csongor
    
    Tickets/Topic
    
     * 2 columns default spacing shouldn't be 0 cm
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135960
       + agree with 0.5cm (Heiko, Stuart)
       + implementation mistake, presets in the dialog work (but not the spinner
    neither
         the sidebar)
       => fix it
    
     * UI Calc Format – Spacing submenu contains unusable, greyed out items
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136071
       + don't touch the main menu (Roman)
       + remove line spacing completely from Calc's main menu (Heiko, Sascha, Stuart)
         + indent is available in the sidebar and under Format > Cells: Alignment
         + paragraph settings are available via main menu Format > Paragraph,
           context menu and sidebar
       + commands are placed at too high a level (Gabor)
         + a) move to Format - Object - Spacing
         + b) keep Format - Spacing for Increase/Decrease Indent or
              move these two to Format - Text
       => let's get rid of it
    
     * Sidebar: Fontwork sidebar is missing
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136140
       + not frequently used, so -1 (Heiko, Stuart)
       + see also tdf#136145 Sidebar: 3d settings sidebar, likewise -1 (Stuart)
       + in some UI modes the fontwork toolbar doesn't pop-up automatically
         and it's the only way to access some properties
       + no feedback from the sidebar even in standard UI mode
         + we need better guidelines for the sidebar (Stuart)
       + LibreOffice is not GIMP where sidebars make sense but we do not have a clear
         use case (Sascha)
       + same applies to 3D settings (Stuart, Sascha)
       => WF
    
     * Sidebar: Move List content back to the Paragraph section in Draw/Impress
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136075
       + lists are prime in presentations much more than in text processing (Stuart)
       + in Impress lists are not part of the PS but in Writer
           + access to list properties per content panel icon would be possible
             anymore if we move this into paragraph (Heiko)
       + keep separate in Impress- and move on Writer too?
         + for sake of consistency, yes; but it's correct today
       + afraid of people who want to contextually hide the list deck (Heiko)
       + sympathizing with the request; only way to make it consistent
         is to have an extra content panel for lists in Writer too (Sascha)
         + maybe the Bullets & Numbering dialog or numbering style dialog opens
           from the to be introduced new content panel for lists; ideally we
           get the new list style dialog in Writer too
       => for now resolve WF
    
     * Transparent background when exporting a page with image to PNG
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136165
       + change is necessary (mwtjunkmail)
       + reason for the confusion is likely the fact that background color
         is saved when the full document is exported
       + don't see Draw as equivalent to Inkscape or the like,
         -1 for the checkerboard background (Heiko)
         + also it's not clear how to implement without affecting the document
       + but we already have provided checkerboard for the SB Gallery
         + would be nice to have (Stuart)
       + Export option "[ ] Save Background as visible" (Csongor, Stuart)
         + if so, have a new section *Background* with "[x] Save Transparency"
       => comment only
    
     * cannot shrink width of Styles panel
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136428
       + see also
    https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-September/085939.html
       + nasty topic, only as backlog
      => postponed for next Wednesday meeting Sep/30