Design/Meetings/2020-11-11

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Link

https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2020/msg00141.html

Minutes

Present: Sascha, Heiko
Comments: Cor

Tickets/Topic

 * calc gives no visual clue about enter/edit cell mode
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63374
   + show cell mode in statusbar? unclear use case
   + wfm (Cor)
   + edit/enter resp. f2/"just type" makes arrow effective or not (Sascha)
   + could replace the "Sheet 1 of 1" at the lower left edge (Sascha)
   + watching a cell contradicts info far away at the statusbar
   + action happened immediately before; and too many information in the 
     statusbar
   => WF

 * Navigator item "Draw objects" in Calc does not show Draw objects without
   name (Writer fixed in the mean time..)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34828
   + switch default to "All Shapes"? see also tdf#137838
   + solve similar to Writer = great (Cor)
   + maybe with a very specific workflow where some forms are named to show up
     in the Navigator... (Sascha)
   => switching the default makes everybody happy, let's do it

 * Add a keyboard shortcut for pointer as pen
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134281
   + suggest N for toggle pen on/off and E for erase all (Heiko, Cor)
   + N is used for Next and P would be better anyway, let's drop
     P/N from next/previous slide and use P for pen (Sascha)
   => sounds like a plan

 * TABLE FORMATTING: (context menu) setting "Number recognition" 
   should be possible for each individual cell
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48763
   + number recognition per cell breaks current workflow where this function
     clearly works globally (Sascha, Heiko)
   + manually set format could be kept / block the number recognition (Heiko)
   + good idea, needsdevadvice (Cor)
   + or we reject the request since user can easily revert the applied format
     (and not using the format as recognized should be the exception given the 
     option is switched on) (Sascha)
   + reverting recognized numbers is pretty simple with clear direct formatting
     + doesn't work with boolean or percentile format - and % is recognized
   => too complicated, WF

 * Cells in rows/columns that are hidden with Data > Group and Outline
   are overwritten with paste and included when copying
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113232
   + show an infobar when hidden cells have been affected by operations (Heiko)
   + request is to simply exclude data from being copied/overwritten (Cor)
     + sure but that sounds like a safety issue; col/row might have been
       hidden accidentally
   + request is specifically about pasting of content into grouped and 
     hidden columns (Sascha)
     + again, one very specific case out of many with hidden cells resp.
       col/rows with zero height/width
   + hidden row/cols should be protected and must be affected by any operation
     such as formatting, pasting, resizing... (Sascha)
     + there is likely a reason why hidden row/col are zero sized and not
       protected
   + could imagine some kind of confirmation as well
   + identical behavior in Excel
   => WF