Design/Meetings/2021-01-06

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Link

https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2021/msg00001.html

Minutes

Present: Sascha, Heiko, (Steve)
Comments: Stuart, Jan, Gerhard, Regina, Thomas, MikeK, Seth

Tickets/Topic

 * VIEWING Enhancement: Show cursor position as percentage of document
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138982
   + nice to have but rather as document statistics with line/column
     number (Heiko); OP replied: "not suited for my use case"
   + limited value to our 'Benjamin' users (Stuart)
   + Writer is not a layout program (Sascha)
   => WF

 * VIEW MENU: Replace View>Show Horizontal Scroll Bar/Vertical Scroll Bar
   with single menu entry
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138538
   + pointless change; modifications to the main menu need very good
     reason (Roman, Stuart)
   + many programs like GIMP and Inkscape switch all SB on/off; but
     LibreOffice has a submenu for the scrollbars individually (Sascha)
     + scrollbars belong to the OS/DE and whether they be small or hide
       after a while is up to the system (Heiko)
     + scrollbars have a high value as they show the document position
     + comparison with image editors is bad because canvas is moved per mouse
   + rulers have a master switch with a shortcut (Sascha)
     + but a weird interaction with checkboxes that are not independent
   + we could improve the rulers, have a master switch plus both vertical and
     horizontal options - and the same for scrollbars with the advantage of
     a shortcut to switch (both) scrollbars off (Sascha)
     + doubt the use case; horizontal scrolling, ie. high zoom level,
       is very unusual (Heiko)
   + benefit is that LibreOffice becomes more familiar with other tools (Sascha)
   => does not hurt to add the command but has low priority

 * UI: Label "type" & Image  in the image properties dialog not really helpful
   (self-explaining)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138844
   + no change for sake of changing, Image may remain Image (Gerhard)
   + Type is misleading (Regina)
   + Type => Position and Size, Image => Flip and Rotation (Heiko)
     + Image could be just Rotation (Sascha)
   + charts and formula objects also use "Type" (for position and size
     information), text box and shapes "Position and Size"
     + "Rotation" is used at shapes too
   => do it

 * Add bulk-save/bulk-close options for documents
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101247
   + multi-document interface (MDI) instead of an application with one interface
     for all documents/graphics is are rather not suited for this method
   + optional if implementation is easy with less maintenance (Jan, Thomas)
   + special workflow, better realized per macro (Sascha)
   + don't see the benefit from one dialog with many checkboxes for
     MDI documents (would be different in case of SDI) (Heiko)
   + command "Save All" works fine anyway (Sascha)
   + "Close All" without asking to save changes is a dangerous function
     and I'm strongly against it (Heiko)
   => WF (not much benefit with some effort)

 * The "Strong" button when added to a toolbar shows "Strong Emphasis"
   not Strong
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136686
   + keep "Strong Emphasis" and rename the UNO command (MikeK)
   => follow Mike's suggestion

 * Using Ctrl + Shift + B and Ctrl + Shift + I for Emphasis and Strong Emphasis
   character styles (and change Super/Subscript keyboard shortcuts)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108015
   + rather alt+shift+e/s for _E_mphasis and _S_trong Emphasis (Seth)
   + Strong Emphasis might be bold but could be any other style (see also
     bug 136686 comment 8 above); therefore the association with direct
     formatting is misleading
   + it's not possible to customize character style shortcuts (bug 106785)
     neither is one assigned
   => keep the CS empty and resolve ticket as WF