Design/Meetings/2021-02-03

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    https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2021/msg00013.html

    Minutes

    Present: Heiko
    Comments: Sascha, Mike, Regina, John, Seth, Telesto, Dieter, Eike
    
    Tickets/Topic
    
     * UI: Footnotes and endnote settings has no reset button
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139712
       + seems to be a global option and effective across sessions
       + could enhance workflow, but
       + first Bug 128469 (terminology of Reset/Standard) has to be solved
         for naming convention (Sascha)
       + don't see the benefit, Reset becomes "Set to Parent" and works only
         with hierarchically organized data; F&E is kind of global option and
         would fit tools > options > writer
       + if we add Reset it will behave as reset to factory settings and
         rather add confusion than making dialogs more consistent
       => comment
    
     * UI Footnote/endnote settings dialog caption
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139713
       + dialog has other label then menu entry, slash bad practice for
         titles (Sascha)
       + suggest naming dialog and menu entry to "Foot- and Endnotes..." (Sascha)
       + yes to "Footnotes and Endnotes Settings" but no to properties since
         this dialog works similar to tools > options (Heiko)
       => comment
    
     * "Links to External Files" is not precise
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139735
       + "External Links..." or "Links to External Data..." (Mike)
       + "External Links" bad naming, links itself aren't external (Sascha)
       + suggest "Externally Linked..." or "Linked Data and Files..." (Sascha)
       + +1 to "Links to External Data..." (too much
       + Calc: .uno:InsertExternalDataSource "Link to E~xternal Data..."
    + Draw/Impress: .uno:ManageLinks "Lin~ks to External Files..."
       + Writer: .uno:LinkDialog "Lin~ks to External Files..."
         + cui/uiconfig/ui/baselinksdialog.ui is titled "Edit Links"
       + streams are rather a corner case for Writer and DrawImpress
       + if "data" is read similar to "file" we should harmonize acc. Calc
    
    + documentation under https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-US/text/shared/01/02180000.html is outdated
    
       => comment
    
     * Paragraph/Character Style Dialog: "Reset" and "Standard"
       buttons have confusing labels
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128469
       + suggest "Reset Tab" and "Reset to Parent" but probably to long
         labels (Sascha)
       + Reset -> Revert, Unapply, Undo, Clear, Undo Unsaved Changes, Undo Tab
         + keep Reset since it's used in different context
       + Standard -> Reset, Default, Parent, Original, Inherited,
         Reset Tab to Parent, Reset Tab, Re/Set to Parent
         + "Reset" for "Standard" adds confusion (Regina)
       + remove Reset
         + works nicely with Apply (John)
       + both apply to the current tab only (Apply works on all tabs)
       + ideally we have a true "Reset" button, which works as Undo for Apply, and
         a "Standard" that reverts everything to the default (pretty difficult for
         hierarchical content)
       => simplicity first, short terms, long and informative tooltips
    
     * The behavior of the border picker is sometimes off
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139838
       + see also https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139094
       + keep makes no sense in many cases, e.g. edit single cell, column, row
       + consistent behavior would be: init off>on>off; init partial>on all>off
         all (Sascha)
       + bike-shedding to me, don't see the benefit of keep either but there is
         likely one (Heiko)
       => comment
    
     * UI - Find in Calc fails when a formula refers to a cell in
       another sheet's pivot table
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134724
       + expect quick find to search content instead of display values (Eike)
       + default search should be values (for Benjamin), option for formulas given
         (for Eve) (Sascha)
       + maybe rename "Values" into "Values and Results" (Sascha)
       + simply find both, Values/Results, Content and Notes (Heiko)
         + otherwise I vote for an option
       => comment