Design/Meetings/2022-04-27

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    https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2022/msg00045.html

    Minutes

    Present: Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Seth, Dieter, Cor, Csongor, Regina, Roman

Tickets/Topics

 * Commands related to styles miscategorized in customization dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131760
   + patch submitted SID_TEMPLATE_LOAD -> Template,
     SID_STYLE_DESIGNER -> View (Seth)
   + another name like "Style Functions" might work as well (Eyal)
   => comment

 * Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148320
   + no issue, preview available (Dieter, Cor)
   + alternative is to have a checkbox "[x] Use title" and enable
     the input respectively
   + improve consistency, maybe novice user would not try to delete,
     label "Type and Title" is misleading, and we have enough space
     in the dialog (Eyal)
   => nice easyhack for beginner-

 * Need to make Insert cross-ref more accessible
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148648
   + alt+shift+R or C (Eyal)
   + (default) shortcuts are precious, but no preference from my side (Heiko)
   + alt+shift+R is assigned to View > Rulers (a single time function),
     would feel better to reassign this one (Heiko)
     + having this shortcut makes sense (Eyal)
   + don't mind but strongly encourage a shortcut for cross-reference (Eyal)
   => do it

 * Mark page center on horizontal and vertical rulers
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148128
   + no objection, useful idea (Cor, Csongor)
   + not a requirement for Writer and available in Draw/Impress (Heiko)
   + page center is not clear, eg. including the gutter? (Regina)
   + there is a snap function for the actual position of the shape
   + for tables, for example, it's also important to know where
     the center is (Eyal)
   + if we implement a positioning feature it should be one used across the app
     which is the snap lines in Draw; make positioning very flexible since the
     objects could be aligned to left/right of the center too (Heiko)
   + snaplines needs to be enhanced to also snap at the center of objects and
     to snap at the page center
   + centering an object in Writer is possible via Position & Size (also
     with option to consider or ignore the gutter)
   + still interesting to see where the center is; and it has a minor impact
     on UI/UX (Eyal)
   + center could be realized per printer marks but those depend on
     columns - what center is meant in case of columns or other content like
     sections, frames etc.?
     + bug is about center of page
   + a) suggest to split the bug into mark and snap and b) ask for input what
        center exactly is meant (page, text area, paragraph... or any)
   + prefer to not do (Heiko)
   => comment

 * UI: The No List button constantly highlighted when no some text isn't a list
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148790
   + standard mutually exclusive behavior, NAB (Heiko)
   + but typically positively defined, would prefer two buttons (Eyal)
     + easy to customize (hide button) and working well (Heiko)
   + having the No List button has not much benefit for the user and occupies
     space, so removing/hiding makes sense
   => check whether No List was added but recommend to remove

 * Rework the Sparklines dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148568
   + Mockup provided (Roman)
   + looks good
   + vertical axis needs min/max labels, the caption and controls should become
     properly indented (ideally the first control right of the caption)
   + Axis should be Axes, Properties -> Basic Properties
   + this configuration would greatly benefit from a preview
   => comment
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