Design/Meetings/2023-07-13

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    Link

    https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2023/msg00091.html

    Minutes

    Present: Hossein, Cor, Heiko
    Comments: Stuart, Stephane, Shu, Eyal, David
    
    
    Tickets/Topics
    
     * Removing "contextual groups" from the list of NB variants
       + Justin resolved some related tickets as WF/WFM
       + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/ToolBar
    + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/12/21/evolving-past-the-restrictions-of-toolbars/.
       + pro removing: experimental state for long, some effort needed
       + con: would be a pity to just follow what others do
       + too many UI options anyway (Hossein)
         + unfortunately we do not have the manpower to improve these ideas
       + we have this ticket somewhere (Heiko)
    
     * Add an "all pages" view mode to Draw to scroll through all pages
       in canvas (without needing Page Pane)
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156087
       + similar to Writer's multiple-page view; expected by many
         users (Stephane, Shu)
         + Impress has the Slide Sorter in an extra view mode
       + Draw is not a PDF viewer, WF (Stuart)
       + missing function (Shu)
       + Draw is not meant to show multi-page documents,
         dup of bug 141732 or invalid (Eyal)
       => resolve WF
    
     * Rename "rotation object" to "solid of revolution"
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156099
       + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_of_revolution (Tuomas)
       + ODF defines "a three-dimensional rotation shape based on the
         given polygon"; the more convoluted "solid of revolution" while
         lexically correct adds nothing to the UI or the UX (Stuart)
       => resolve NAB
    
     * Support distinction rather than override of conflicting
       subdocument styles
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155740
       + unclear use case (David)
       + some confirmation per document (Shu)
         + if we better go with a global master switch (Heiko)
       + master documents are a special workflow aiming for style
         consistency, WF (Mike, Hossein)
       + unclear use case (David)
       + copy/paste could solve alternative workflows (Shu)
       => resolve WF
    
     * When setting the Heading/Outline Numbering for a level to "None",
       still getting separators
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156089
       + works like in MSO, WF (Justin)
       + no reason to block, WF (Heiko)
       + asking to _clear_ the separator fields in case of None (Eyal)
         + remembering "Chapter/:" is not a (good) solution since users may
           change it for None into "-/>", or the like, making it very
           difficult to follow
       + behavior existing for years shouldn't change without
         good reasons (Hossein)
       + list style is something you shouldn't change multiple times
       => resolve WF
    
     * Autocorrect replaces " - " with " – " instead of " — "
       (en-dash instead of em-dash)
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156046
       + maybe drop the conversion of single hyphen (Stuart)
       + typically two hyphen is an EN-dash, three EM (Heiko)
       + two dashes with / without spaces is kind of standard and
         working like this in MSO (Hossein)
    + clearly described in https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/shared/01/06040100.html
       + two dashes without spaces like 1--2 is not correctly
         converted (Heiko)
       => bug; do not change the behavior as described in the help