Design/Meetings/2023-09-13

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    Link

    https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2023/msg00108.html

    Minutes

    Present: John, Eyal, Heiko
    Comments: Dieter, Stephane, Mike
    
    Tickets/Topics
    
     * Separate Default Page Size from Language Locale
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149478
       + add an option to set the default page size (John, Eyal)
       + Consider placing the option elsewhere than Languages Settings
         | Language, as that is not intuitive & difficult to discover (Eyal)
       + templates are pretty easy to do and users should learn this (Dieter)
       => do it
    
     * UX review needed for Options - Writer - Compatibility dialog
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157006
       + hide single GUI option (John, Heiko)
       + reorganize the other, ie. OpenOffice 1.1 together
         + perhaps combining all those options makes it easier (John)
       + rename, ie. use verbs at the beginning
       + shorten text if possible, ie. "Tolerate..." without " for
         compatibility..." (needs to be considered individually)
       + Perhaps consider having a drop-down list box for setting
         the selection to correspond to specific apps: OOo 1.1, some
         version(s) of MS Word etc. (Eyal)
       + Planning to comment on specifics in more detail on the bug page
         (Eyal)
       => easyhack
    
     * Tabs in Ruler not showing correctly
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157081
       + Windows show no automatic tab stop at all (only manual)
       + change design of default tab stop indicator and  (John)
       + use left/right pointing angle for LTR/RTL (Stephane)
       => do it
    
     * Inconsistent table row selection
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155670
       + nothing "surprising" in the selection, LibreOffice is
         doing well (Heiko)
       + LO behavior on is surprising, frustrates expectations and
         inconsistent (e.g. third-line-level vs first-line-level) (Eyal)
       + unclear use case /issue (John)
         + compatibility might be relevant (John)
         + don't think we need to make the same mistakes (Heiko)
         + Disagree, issue is very clear (Eyal)
       + Will try to make a video to better clarify the frustration (Eyal)
       => prolly NAB
    
     * Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153
       + prompt would be intrusive, static text in About dialog okay (Mike)
       + Windows has the (auto-)updater informing about new versions,
         Linux distributions prefer own update procedures, no need
         for more "incentives" (Heiko)
       + About dialog is not an incentive per se (Eyal)
       + rather invest in better update mechanism and "intrusive prompt"
         when new major updates are available (Eyal)
       + show an infobar on major version "Version is no longer supported"
         along with buttons "Update", "Show again", Don't bother again"
         (Eyal, John)
       => comment

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