Design/Meetings/2023-11-22
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https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2023/msg00127.html
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Present: Maija, Sahil, Julia, Eyal, John, Cor, Heiko Comments: LeroyG, Mike, Ady, Rafael, Werner, Tomaz, Csongor Tickets/Topics * Conducting a survey around LibreOffice + How often would you accept a nag screen? + Would you appreciate a welcome screen with some initial questions? + ... + to bring the results into something actionable is challenging but expected by the participants (Cor) * Inconsistent behavior of "New style from selection" in Styles list and Styles menu + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151563 + works as expected in the Stylist but not anywhere else + add the "paragraph" to the string, at least (LeroyG) + alternative commands for every individual style (Mike) + not obvious that the command uno:StyleNewByExample is needed in menu/toolbar/shortcut (Eyal) + not so important (Cor, John) + drop customizability and access in the UI except the Stylist (Heiko) + drawback is that one needs to activate the Stylist + extra UNO commands would be needed for the Notebookbars too (John) + change just the title for now (Cor, Eyal) + PS can be added by directly adding the name to the styles toolbar control and we could provide an analogue control for CS (Cor) => change command title * add UNO command for Hidden font effect of characters in Writer + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158168 + easy to customize via user-defined character style (Heiko) + disagree since it means to multiply CS (Eyal) + suggest to add it as DF (Eyal, John) + depending on the use case it be necessary to add the attribute on top of any format; example workflow is to have words in different language next to each other and hide one or the other (Cor) + but tend to agree with WF/NAB (Cor) => add UNO command (but dont show on the UI by default) * Sidebar pane shortcuts conflict with Alt+NumPad input + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158112 + alt+num code is used to insert characters not on the keyboard (Ady) + make it depending on the OS/DE (Eyal) + use alt+shift+<num> (Heiko) + Acceptable (Eyal) + remove shortcuts, or make it so users can customize it + no so good (Eyal) + involve a11y into the discussion (Eyal) + ctrl+alt+<num> is available for customization! => comment * Add 'shuffle' or 'random' option to 'Sort' dialog + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158196 + functionality not available in Excel too + agree to the need for UNO command to shuffling cell range, rows, columns (Rafael) + better suited for Sheet > Fill Cells (Werner) + definitely not (Tomaz) + frequently needed; best suited for the sort dialog as another option after ascending/descending (Csongor) + wonder if randomization needs to have a start value to get the same result repeatedly (Eyal) + should not (Cor) + expect it as extra command under Data among Sort (John) + bloats the dialog (Cor) + would rather like to see it in the dialog; would be more visible (Eyal) + hard to wrap the mind around sort first by col A, the by random B, and finally by C (Heiko) => UNO command might be the best choice
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