Design/Meetings/2024-01-11

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    Minutes

    Present: Sahil, Hossein, Rafael, Heiko
    Comments: Stuart, Cor, Stephané, Miklos, Cor, Ady, Stephane
    
    Tickets/Topics
    
     * Implement a simple calculation of values to input size and position
       of draw objects
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158685
       + eg. "3+3,2" => "6,2"
       + Kind of a stretch for *needing* to do the simple calculations (Stuart)
       + could be useful for more complex stuff like "pi()/4 * 1.2345" or
         "sqr(sin(2)/cos(3)); similar to bug 72662 about the unit conversion (Heiko)
       + doubt if it is wise to start walking this path (Cor)
       + sounds useful (Sahil)
       + slash might be used as a number separator in some locales and one cannot
         be sure it is a divider (Hossein)
       + many tools provide the functionality anyway (eg. KRunner on Linux/KDE
         but also the search bar on Windows start a calculator) (Hossein)
       + very simple calculation wouldn't be enough anyway (Hossein)
       => WF
    
     * Move rows with protected cells does not give warning
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158682
       + agree that a message is needed (Stephané), but depending on the case
         + "Source contents not removed because cells are protected."
         + "Contents were copied but not removed because cells are protected"
         + "Protected cells can not be modified." (the stock message)
       + dragging of protected cells is not possible anyway
       + message box interrupts the workflow and we could also just block the
         drag feedback
         + however, paste is not available via menu/toolbar and the keyboard
           allows to quickly confirm (Heiko)
       + Agree, a similar message is useful (Hossein)
         + one message should be fine (Hossein)
       + "Protected cells cannot be dragged"
       + stock message is fine (Hossein)
       + don't change the cursor if DnD is not possible (Sahil)
         + could also be a blocking cursor symbol (Hossein)
       => show the stock message and consider the drag cursor
    
     * Original size button in image properties -> position and size tab
       doesn't restore original size for paper size exceeding images in
       Writer (and breaks image ratio)
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158545
       + rename to "Reset dimensions" (Telesto)
       + Word uses just "Reset"
       + Reason for restricting object size to page size is consistency;
         Writer defaults to capturing drawing objects inside the page
         frame (Miklos)
       + MSO365 allows scaling beyond the page and cuts off the extra part
       + seldom need for sizing beyond the page (Cor)
       + sizing the image beyond the page is desirable (Rafael, Hossein)
         + Word allows this but not to move the image out of the page
       + simply "Reset" and a tooltip with "Resets width and height to the
         original size, unless limited by the page size)
       + show original size as static text like in the compress dialog
         before the Reset button to make the function more clear (Hossein)
       + also keep the ratio in all cases
       => rename, add static size info, and fix the ratio bug
    
     * Better design for the Keep Ratio setting
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158531
       + not much benefit (Heiko)
       + go with a small button like in the sidebar (Rafael)
         + would be a toolbutton taking a lot of vertical space and
         + we cannot draw the connector arrows (Heiko)
       + what was the inspiration (Hossein)
         + GIMP has these buttons, for example
       + consistency is prime and we use typically checkboxes (Sahil)
       => go ahead (+2/0/-1); easy to revert
    
     * Comemnt marker makes it difficult to see the data in a cell
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158958
       + UNO command to toggle indicator on/off quickly (Stuart)
       + against a user-defined symbol, to revert the patch, and
         some default margin to make space for the symbol (Heiko)
       + open to UNO command to toggle the indicator on/off, a
         less obtrusive default color, different position for
         the indicator (Heiko)
       + suggest to add an expert options to control the dynamic size
         and another to disable the dynamic size (Heiko, Rafael)
       + use a different default color (Rafael)
         + is being discussed on bug 159096; maybe orange (Rafael)
       + make the default a bit smaller (Rafael, Heiko)
       + ideally do the best per code without option but if needed
         make it as simple as possible; option is good for now (Hossein)
       + good default make configuration unnecessary (at least the UI),
         use grid color and move the indicator to the edge (Rafael)
       + propose an expert value and use <=0 for dynamic size and everything
         else as static value (Heiko)
       + change is needed (Ady), expert option sounds good (Cor, Stephane)
       => go with the expert options