Design/Meetings/2024-09-25

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    https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/2024/msg00116.html

    Minutes

    Present: Sahil, Lorenz, John, Heiko
    Comments: Regina, Stuart, Manu, Roman, Laurent, Regina
    
    Tickets/Topics
    
     * Want access from borders toolbar menubutton to Format > Cells...
       Borders pane
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162967
       + valid request, similar to many other places (Regina, Stuart, Eyal)
       + toolbar buttons should be simple and provide quick and easy
         access (Heiko)
       + could be done similar to Underline (Sahil)
       + Ribbon always offer access to more properties (Eyal)
       => go it (consider Border Style as well)
    
     * Need way to avoid selecting fonts which don't cover the relevant
       language Unicode range
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151122
       + comment 32: add a filter to the special character dialog
       + rather use/improve the Special Characters dialog or
         maybe extend the SCD with a font filter (Stuart)
         + such a filter could be added to the font tab (Heiko)
         + it is not the request; would not give an immediate understanding (Eyal)
         + unicode blocks not necessarily cover some font, eg. Farsi
           or diacritics in general (Eyal)
       + make live preview as known from Calc available in Writer (Manu)
         + could be done as a checkbox "[ ] Fonts covering the selection" in
           the character dialog (Heiko)
         + selection is not always present (Eyal)
         + would be actually against the use case of "I want to write a text in
           some language and don't know the right font" since text has been
           written in this case (Heiko)
       + proposing (Eyal)
         1. map languages to glyphs like English A:Z, German A:Z,ß,
            Arabic <aleph><zeta>
         2. when a language is used (UI, document, etc) the list of fonts is tagged
            as appropriate; and fonts are indicated (could be done by dimming)
            or filtered (prefer a filter)
         3. doubt hat filtering covers the use case (Heiko); corner cases such as
            multi-selections for later (Eyal)
       + expertise from local communities needed (John, Sahil, Lorenz)
       => continue the discussion on the ticket
    
     * Reworked localized Impress templates look ugly in RU
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162878
       -> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163116
       + patches fix most issues except Freshes - c14, c16 (Roman, Laurent)
       + alternative could be some generic text like Alpha Beta...
         or we delete the example slide completely (Heiko)
       + but actually would keep it (Heiko)
       + localized "Some Text 1", "Some Text 2" (Sahil)
         or without the text (Lorenz)
       + localization to RTL would still be silly (Eyal)
       + some people may even not be able to read the letters (Eyal)
       + morse alphabet... ;-) (Sahil)
       + we could ship localized templates (Sahil)
       => keep as it is for now (aka WF)
    
     * New layouts for LO Impress
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93087
       + Handout and Notes suggestions seem useful (Stuart)
       + rather make it customizable, bug 78156 (Regina)
         + customization on top would be great but some good defaults
           are needed anyway
       + before/after needed to decide (Eyal)
       + no harm in adding more layouts (John)
       => proposals are fine and implementation is welcome