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http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Minutes-of-the-Design-Hangout-2015-01-28-tc4138214.html
Minutes
Jan 30, 2015; 3:51am Jan Holesovsky-4
Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-01-28
* Present: Cor, Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias
* Completed Action Items:
+ Jay: Update screenshots https://www.libreoffice.org/discover/screenshots/
[has a couple of them, will send to the marketing-priv ML]
* Pending Action Items:
+ Default document view for Writer, single page rather than
automatic
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001
+ Stuart: Change the default to single page
+ Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to "Multipage view" or
"Multiple page view"
[https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would
be great to get that to gerrit]
+ Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and
Grammar'
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648
+ Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the
wiki page that collects changes in menus
+ Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental,
somewhere in the user's profile
+ Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
+ Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
+ Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
+ Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as
a special window
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
+ Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the
issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening
separate too. (Cor, after discussion later)
* UI changes integrated the last week:
+ Improve focus handling in .ui files (Thomas Viehmann, Caolán)
* Last week's discussions that need a resolution:
+ Disable object, image, and character toolbars in Impress (Jay, Cor)
To simply the interface by having just one toolbar above and below
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676
+ unfortunately we would lose the possibility to change the
style first, and then draw (Kendy)
+ it is different to how it works in Writer - there you have
no other option than to draw first, and then tweak the
color (Jay)
+ current way is similar to eg. Inkscape (Mattias)
+ if we used the sidebar more, it would allow more space for the
slide (Jay)
+ but interaction should be improved there, indeed (Mattias)
+ what about to restructure this a bit more? (Kendy)
+ proposed a sidebar for colors etc. together with shapes to
draw (Jay)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87643
wps draw sidebar - https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=111225
* Discussions that need a resolution - continue the next week
+ Default insert image anchor and wrapping (Jay)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87720
+ OK with changing the default (Cor)
+ is more concerned about habviour around page breaks, but
that is independent (Cor)
+ anchored to paragraph, centers the image
+ is that preferred?
+ others insert as character (Jay)
+ changeable via the default style (Cor)
+ MSO has only As character, and To page (Jay)
+ "To character" anchoring should be killed ;-) (Kendy)
+ adds terrible computational complexity (Kendy)
+ will create example of various anchoring possibilities (Mattias)
* Discussions that need a resolution - backlog from the last weeks
+ When image anchor is set to 'As Character' it should set vertical
align to top (Jay)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87742
+ Unify wrap labels (Jay)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87783
+ Unifying the location of 'Tools' (Jay)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85511
+ non-breaking characters showing with grey background (Jay)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58434
+ keyboard mode indicators in statusbar (Jay)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88367
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88296
+ Underlines in drop downs (Jay)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86678
* Icon Updates / Issues
+ Sifr
+ Matthias added a couple of missing ones before the release
+ thanks so much! (Kendy)
+ otherwise busy these days unfortunately
+ Breeze (Jay)
+ no news
+ https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285&t=123517
+ Wiki with list of icons to design (Riddell)
https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze
+ custom LO icons
https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/actions/LO_lc_icons_breeze
* Customization Proposal (Heiko)
+ http://user-prompt.com/how-to-make-libreoffice-customization-usable/
+ added to the to-be-filed-GSoC-ideas above
+ published & finished - 12 votes
+ some ideas about events (Heiko)
+ events should be separated to an own section (Heiko)
+ how should that look like and how to launch
+ shortcuts still part of the customization (Heiko)
+ like the approach! (Jay)
* Change tracking sidebar proposal (Heiko)
+ https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UuZUJYOLPM3_LdW77OSAaUBpDhRg3iHSjo31DTUEEzk/edit
+ also the dialog:
+ Edit -> Changes -> Accept or Reject... (4.3)
+ Edit -> Channges -> Manage Changes... (4.4)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87695 (Jay)
+ https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=111314
ms word tracking sidebar
+ threaded discussion (when changing comments)
+ do we really need that (Heiko)
+ it is hard to sort, and strange a bit
+ isn't it an overkill for change tracking? (Heiko)
+ adds another level of complexity (Heiko)
+ without the tree view, it could be cleaner + simpler (Heiko)
+ what is the intention - more space, or cleaner interaction? (Cor)
+ likes the Filter functionality (Cor)
+ buttons at the top or the bottom?
+ suggest bottom (Jay)
+ is more like a dialog
+ merge the toolbar to the sidebar too (Jay)
+ and kill the toolbar
+ buttons for next / previous change are useful (Kendy)
+ would be useful to have information on more lines (Jay/Kendy)
+ how that goes together with sorting? (Heiko)
+ maybe not necessary with filtering? (Jay)
AI + read the Heiko's proposal (all)
+ will add some competitive analysis (Heiko)