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    Apr 22, 2015; 11:44am Jan Holesovsky-4
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-04-15
    * Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Ken, Kendy
        + welcome Ken! - from the KDE design community
    * Completed Action Items:
    * Pending Action Items:
        + Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget
        + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus
        + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile
        + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
        + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt.
        + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
        + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window

            + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
              and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128)
                + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
        + Kendy:
             + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
        + Jay: Create a bug report about problem with parent icon set links.txt entries not appearing in child icon sets (Jay)
        + Kendy: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is, more complete
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
        + Rearrange Chart toolbars

        + .ui updates (Bubli, Clément)
        + improved page numbering in Calc and Draw/Impress (Dobra Gabor)
        + new Breeze icons (Andreas)
        + Sifr updates (Matthias)
        + show only extensions we are able to insert (Bubli)
    * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
        + should add information how to create new widgets (Heiko)
        + would be good to have Friday session about this (Heiko)
            + so that we can have the functional & visual parts there (Heiko)
        + generally UI guidelines should be kept simple to avoid the stagation
          that more detailed documents get (Ken)
    * Icon Updates / Issues
        + Shouldn't the icons in the Start Center always be the TDF/LibreOffice official "Branding" icons
          regardless of the icon theme? (Pedro)
    AI      + best to agree with Marketing - if the app icons should have the status of logos (Kendy)
        + Tango (Alex/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
            + pushed new icons for Calc (Jay)
        + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
            + Papamatti pushed some new icons (Jay)
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
            + Andreas pushed more icons (Jay)
        + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
            + Status -
    * How best to provide kendy with a list of needDevEval (Jay)
        + Should I include it in the UI/UX priorty list google doc? (Jay)
            + sounds good (Kendy)
            + will bring it to the ESC to find more interested people who can provide code pointers (Kendy)
                + ~10 is enough for now
    * Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)
        + Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart)

            + it is a bit thin, so feel free to hack at it.
            + need some crafting on the Whiteboard as to scope of 5.0 branding proposals, e.g.
              + visual design (color scheme, icons)
              + StartCenter specifics (changes to layout--yes/no--)
              + placment or size of thumbnail views/template views
        + already some responses to posts to Users and Design MLs
        + needed: splash, startcenter graphics, about
        + reached to some people we know (Heiko, Jay)
        + now to spread the word more
    AI      + sync with marketing (Kendy)
    * Shapes Sidebar (Heiko/Jay)
        + Blog posted -
        + additional reaction under the blogpost
             + don't forget the connector shapes
             + another +1's for accordion
        + topic closed :-)
    * Insert Chart (Heiko/Jay)
        + somebody asked why a dialog when we have a sidebar?
            + could be that click in the toolbar just adds the chart that would be tweaked in sidebar
            + but the dialog is needed because of data in Writer
        + blogpost pending, will be out tomorrow
        + should we present both 2 proposals, or agree on one only?
            + problem that these use a different approaches to the UX (Heiko)
            + the main thing (for me) is to attract a developer who'd like to implement that, so
              presenting both works for me (Kendy)
            + conclusion: yes
    * Next Friday's design session (Jay)
        + 12pm UTC
        + Continue with last friday's insert chart discussion as it hasnt been completed
        + List of possible future topics

        + Topic: Style guide

            + general view would be good (Kendy)
                + like, where we want to rely on other guidelines, and what we want to design / decide
                  ourselves (Kendy)
    * UX advise bugs in bugzilla (Stuart) (336 [-2] bugs in ux-advice today)
        + everyone please feel empowered to look at that + act: reject, implement, decide, or bring to
          the meeting or mailing list if controversial
        + please be kind when closing requests, usually people have spent quite some energy filing that
    * Sidebar open in Draw by default (Jay)
        + need the same thing as in Impress (Jay)
        + 5 minutes hack, please poke me on the IRC tomorrow (Kendy)