Design/Meetings/2015-05-06

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    Minutes

    May 15, 2015; 12:17pm Jan Holesovsky-4 
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-05-06
    * Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias
    
    * Completed Action Items:
    
        + Jay: Create a bug report about problem with parent icon set links.txt entries not appearing in child icon sets
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90790
        + Kendy: agree with Marketing - if the app icons should have the status of logos
     
    * Pending Action Items:
     
        + Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget
        + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus
        + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile
        + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
        + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
        + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
        + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
            + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
              and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128)
                + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
        + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794
             + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
        + Kendy: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is, more complete
     
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
    
        + Removed direct formatting context menu entries from comment objects (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86606
        + Writer's image context menu reorganization completed (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87185
        + Writer's table context menu reorganization completed (Jay)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86619
        + Reorder the entries in the numbering drop down (Bubli)
          https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69316
    
        + improvements in the icons (Matthias, Adolfo)
        + sifr fallbacks to breeze, not the other way around (Jay)
        + implement crop via mouse in Writer, Calc and Impress (Philippe Jung)
    
    * Calc default styles
     
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90937
        + https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bt2Gr0JslOLL86xb-bCl76mji5AhHT_8VI-5Wp5Qyq0/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + code for this is here:
            + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/sc/source/core/data/stlpool.cxx#n275
            + would be great to update (Kendy)
     
    * Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)
     
        + Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart)
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
            + it is a bit thin, so feel free to hack at it.
            + need some crafting on the Whiteboard as to scope of 5.0 branding proposals, e.g.
              + visual design (color scheme, icons)
              + StartCenter specifics (changes to layout--yes/no--)
              + placment or size of thumbnail views/template views
              etc.
        + already some responses to posts to Users and Design MLs
     
        + needed: splash, startcenter graphics, about
            + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding
            + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Color_Table
            + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Visual_Elements
     
        + reached to some people we know (Heiko, Jay)
    AI      + put together the requirements + share with Heiko + Jay (Kendy)
     
    * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
     
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
        + should add information how to create new widgets (Heiko)
        + generally UI guidelines should be kept simple to avoid the stagation
          that more detailed documents get (Ken)
     
        + 1st part published, lots of feedback
     
        + put the 1st part to a wikipage (Heiko)
            + sounds good (Kendy)
            + move current https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines to temp
     
    * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
     
        + Applications icons: logos or icons?
            + Marketing team view: Applications icons are just icons.
            + Starcenter is a branded part of LibreOffice (Heiko)
            + conclusion: Up to the icon theme designers - if they want to theme those icons in
              the start center in their theme, they can
            + NB: Still there is the bug that wrong theme is used sometimes! - must be fixed for 5.0
     
        + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
    
        + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
            + few new pushed - thanks!
     
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
            + More icons were pushed by Andreas (Jay)
            + It should fallback directly to Galaxy rather than (Jay)
              http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/vcl/source/gdi/impimagetree.cxx#n110
     
        + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
            + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
     
    * needsDevEval (Jay)
     
        + presented the ~10 at ESC
        + query for all the NeedsDevEal was cleaned up
     
        + will present the UI related ones in the ESC weekly (Kendy)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=needsDevEval%20TopicUi&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr
            + still Jay will go through them to remove topicUI from those that do not look like Easy Hacks (Jay)
     
    * Next Friday's design session (Jay)
     
        + 12pm UTC
        + Continue with last friday's insert chart discussion as it hasnt been completed
        + List of possible future topics
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + Topic: Style guide - continued
          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hSYOFoG6jnj2G0zWDbUYkrGZoj7YCSI9j3onkTZ65bU/edit
            + like, where we want to rely on other guidelines, and what we want to design / decide
              ourselves