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May 15, 2015; 12:17pm Jan Holesovsky-4 
Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-05-06
* Present: Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias

* Completed Action Items:

    + Jay: Create a bug report about problem with parent icon set links.txt entries not appearing in child icon sets
    + Kendy: agree with Marketing - if the app icons should have the status of logos
* Pending Action Items:
    + Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget
    + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus
    + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile
    + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
    + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt.
    + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons
    + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window
        + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
          and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128)
            + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
    + Kendy:
         + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
    + Kendy: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is, more complete
* UI changes integrated the last week:

    + Removed direct formatting context menu entries from comment objects (Jay)
    + Writer's image context menu reorganization completed (Jay)
    + Writer's table context menu reorganization completed (Jay)
    + Reorder the entries in the numbering drop down (Bubli)

    + improvements in the icons (Matthias, Adolfo)
    + sifr fallbacks to breeze, not the other way around (Jay)
    + implement crop via mouse in Writer, Calc and Impress (Philippe Jung)

* Calc default styles
    + code for this is here:
        + would be great to update (Kendy)
* Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)
    + Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart)
        + it is a bit thin, so feel free to hack at it.
        + need some crafting on the Whiteboard as to scope of 5.0 branding proposals, e.g.
          + visual design (color scheme, icons)
          + StartCenter specifics (changes to layout--yes/no--)
          + placment or size of thumbnail views/template views
    + already some responses to posts to Users and Design MLs
    + needed: splash, startcenter graphics, about
    + reached to some people we know (Heiko, Jay)
AI      + put together the requirements + share with Heiko + Jay (Kendy)
* UI Guidelines (Heiko)
    + should add information how to create new widgets (Heiko)
    + generally UI guidelines should be kept simple to avoid the stagation
      that more detailed documents get (Ken)
    + 1st part published, lots of feedback
    + put the 1st part to a wikipage (Heiko)
        + sounds good (Kendy)
        + move current to temp
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
    + Applications icons: logos or icons?
        + Marketing team view: Applications icons are just icons.
        + Starcenter is a branded part of LibreOffice (Heiko)
        + conclusion: Up to the icon theme designers - if they want to theme those icons in
          the start center in their theme, they can
        + NB: Still there is the bug that wrong theme is used sometimes! - must be fixed for 5.0
    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)

    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)

        + few new pushed - thanks!
    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)

        + More icons were pushed by Andreas (Jay)
        + It should fallback directly to Galaxy rather than (Jay)

    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status -
* needsDevEval (Jay)
    + presented the ~10 at ESC
    + query for all the NeedsDevEal was cleaned up
    + will present the UI related ones in the ESC weekly (Kendy)
        + still Jay will go through them to remove topicUI from those that do not look like Easy Hacks (Jay)
* Next Friday's design session (Jay)
    + 12pm UTC
    + Continue with last friday's insert chart discussion as it hasnt been completed
    + List of possible future topics
    + Topic: Style guide - continued
        + like, where we want to rely on other guidelines, and what we want to design / decide