Design/Meetings/2015-06-03

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    Minutes

    Jun 04, 2015; 12:19pm Jan Holesovsky-4
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-06-03
    * Present: Heiko, Kendy, Jay, Steve
     
    * Completed Action Items:
     
        + Jay: Make sifr icons fall back on breeze icons as breeze is more complete
          (The styles are quite different and this looks poor in Mac. Adolfo)
     
    * Pending Action Items:
     
        + Kendy: Create a CoreHack to modify the tree view to have a Proof-of-concept of the Accordion widget
        + Jay: Send a mail to [hidden email] with the wiki page that collects changes in menus
        + Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental, somewhere in the user's profile
        + Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
        + Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
        + Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as a special window
          https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
            + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the issue)
              and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening separate too. (Cor, after discussion on 20150128)
                + the bug report only discusses the separate formulas sidebar in calc (Jay)
        + Kendy: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87794
             + check how the sliders in the Audio/Video toolbar are implemented to move them to sidebar
     
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
     
        + Lower half of slide transition tab reorganized (Rishabh)
        + Shrink the properties sidebar sections in Calc (Rishabh)
        + Writer menubar reorganized (Jay)
        + Insert row/col before/after in Calc (Philippe)
        + Hide common task toolbar in master slide view (Philippe)
        + Tango updates (Adolfo, Jay)
        + Formatting, Impress and Draw toolbar improvements (Jay)
     
    * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
     
        + Sifr icons now fall back on breeze icons as breeze is more complete
            + The styles are quite different and this looks poor in Mac. (Adolfo)
            + unfortunately it is so with any fallback (Jay)
            + and breeze is closer than any other fallback (Jay)
            + the best would be to finish the Sifr theme :-) - designers appreciated! (Kendy)
            + breeze on mac - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=116255
            + looks good! (Heiko, Jay, Kendy)
                + let's switch to that for the RC - and if there are complaints, revert (Kendy)
                + some general concerns about breeze, but in this case it seems to look & work well (Heiko)
                + conclusion: let's switch to that now on macOS, and if there's push-back, revert
     
        + some icons have white instead of black on Windows (Jay)
            + bugreport: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91432
     
        + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OErlXIDDGM7V1mOGW8oSCLuhqw5fulT1XhkTik1u2UY/edit?usp=sharing
            + Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons & Gnome 3-style text line icons (Adolfo)
    
        + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/15ZpVaTxg7TAFYhOyQUP3mp-cVtKA1vP5uZAT38t-taA/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
              https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpMFgmkQy4BsyRIKH97ZLPTU6NdvXIYk3Yossj6sSQM/edit?usp=sharing
     
        + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
            + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
     
    * UX patches to approve backporting into 5.0 by (Kendy/Jay)
    
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16030 (Bubli)
            + pushed
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16037 (Jay)
          https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16032
            + pushed
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16061/ (Phillipe)
            + 2 more reviews needed (Bubli? Jay?)
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16007 (Phillipe)
          https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/16034
            + Waiting for ESC
     
    * Track changes sidebar (Jay)
    
        + Can we set a smaller size for the 4 buttons, so that the tab's minimum size can be smaller
            + asked Rishab fix this (Jay)
        + About the action column icons, it would be good to center it rather than having it aligned to the right
          and a formatting change has a plus sign, which should be changed to a 'T' icon like from textbox.
          Any possibility to have a tooltip above these action icons.
            + at the design session, did we decide to use text in the end, or not? (Kendy)
            + http://user-prompt.com/tracking-changes-with-libreoffice/ - use icons in the end
            + sw/source/ui/shells/shells.src IMG_REDLINE_INSERTED .. IMG_REDLINE_AUTOFMT
            + the actual icons are in icon-themes/galaxy/sw/res/redline_*
            + will ask Rishab to do the centering (Jay)
                + http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=5f363ce8bc563f64271744026cf0e16830cf9b06
                + this implemented the icons (to help to locate where to hack)
        + found some problems, will file bugs (Heiko)
            + happy to point Rishab to the code if he can fix that (Kendy)
        + add the buttons (Show, Start, Comment) (Heiko)
            + should be a matter of the .ui file change only (Kendy)
     
    * Artwork for LibreOffice 5.0 call for proposals (Stuart/Kendy)
     
        + Added the 5.0 Branding artwork call for proposals (Stuart)
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding
     
            + results:
                + contributions from 5 people: those listed on the page + one sent by mail
                + would be good to unify the color with what is on the webpage (Jay)
                + conclusion: send a mail to the visual identity committee what should be chosen, and how to proceed
     
    * Reorganized menu bar (Jay)
     
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781
        + user survey about organization possible, known as card sorting (Heiko)
            + but hard to do with too many items (Heiko)
            + will not work out of the box (Heiko)
            + did similar think the last year for KDE system settings (Heiko)
        + the change is pushed now in master
            + reasoning: to be able to see how it compares to the old layout (Jay)
            + easier to see it in action than to take tens of screenshots (Jay)
        + the question: if (or how much) of that still put to 5.0?
            + we should do the change, it's 5.0, big changes are anticipated (Heiko)
                + can see the people's reactions, and revert in the worst case
            + Impress is done already, Calc too (Jay)
                + but not pushed yet
            + Jay to join the ESC tomorrow, Sophie from the l10n is there too,
              let's discuss there (Kendy)