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     Sep 17, 2015; 11:57am Jan Holesovsky-4
    Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-09-16
    * Present: Heiko, Kendy, Jay, Mattias
    * UI changes integrated the last week:
        + Printer missing from tooltip (Samuel)
        + Sifr updates (Matthias)
    * Update the meeting time (Kendy)
        + current time inconvenient a bit, what would be the best time? (Kendy)
        + let's do a doodle (Heiko)
    * LibreOffice Conference
        + September 23-25, 2015, Aarhus, Denmark
            + see you there!
    * Help updating (Kendy)
        + Jay pushed many more improvements recently to gerrit
            + when all approved, will release a new version (Kendy)
        + help-related meta bugs:
        + wikihelp? (Jay)
            + help proposal
                + idea to use xml editor (Kendy)
        + add repo path to wiki help

            + easily doable (Kendy)
        + HelpAuthoring now reasonably OK for new help pages, but one has to be extremely
          careful when editing existing stuff (Kendy)
            + modulo some bugs - when editing a field, it can destroy some other fields
              with "** Expression is faulty **" message
    * Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)
        + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
            + went through the reproducer with Jay, it's an additional bug (Kendy)
                + will create a report (Jay)
        + Sifr & breeze for dark themes
            + would be good to have versinos that use lighter colors (Jay)
            + ideally done in S/W (Kendy)
            + please create a bug for that Jay (Kendy)
                + I'll add the code pointers then (Kendy)
        + idea about breeze-color (Heiko)
            + talked to Andreas
            + Idea: background color wrt. function/catgory
            + sometimes the toolbar is too grey (Heiko)
            + would be good to be able to download + use new icon theme easily (Heiko)
                + problem to find a developer :-( - a bit of hacking involved (Kendy)
        + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
        + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
            + pushed one patch this week (crop icon); to 5.0 too, plus some updates (Jay)
        + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
            + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
        + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
            + Status -
    * Templates Competition (Jay)
        + no news this week
    * 5.0 Artwork (Jay)
        + no news this week
    * UI Guidelines (Heiko)
        + replace "UX principles" by "HIG"
            + UX principles good & relevant, but not specific enough (Heiko)
            + suggest to change this link to the HIG instead:
            + conclusion: Will mail [hidden email] (Heiko) / done
            + Stuart recommends to wait with pushing the HIG to a more prominent place until it is more refined. (Stuart/Heiko)
                + then again - never let perfect be enemy of the good ;-) (Kendy)
                + I think it would be enough to improve the look of
         a bit, and switch (Kendy)
        + sidebar + dialogs
            + added to wiki
    * Writer: Styles menubar entry (Jay)
        + what character should be in the list? - would like to add more (Jay)
        + citation maybe? (Heiko)
        + text body vs. default
            + what's the difference? (Jay)
            + preference to use 'text body'
        + problem with table styles - even with ODF
            + a GSoC implementation exists, unfortunately not merged yet (Kendy)
            + table style support -
    * Chart sidebar (Jay)
        + Moggi said sidebar work is going along well (Jay)
            + he's just finished another round of bug fixes
            + he's asked that people test the sidebar and submit bugs using tdf#91063 in the blocks field
            + will be moving my bug report log to bugzilla
        + want to create a set of chart styles (Jay)
            + chart styles are broken up into data series color sets, layout presets, and element style presets
            + asked Heiko and Matthias to create a few color sets and layout presets
            + will ask Moggi what is possible to implement within the sidebar
            + research work