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<christoph_n> MARKETING CONFERENCE CALL START <christoph_n> Agenda can be found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#Agenda -->| Stefan_W (~stefan@p5491EECD.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #documentfoundation -->| yorick_ (~yorick@218-101-69-107.dialup.clear.net.nz) has joined #documentfoundation <cloph> (ping for today is 625 - for all who joined in the meantime/didn't look at the wiki that was just updated) <christoph_n> Topic 1. Release preparations for LibreOffice 3.3 (Florian) --> might be skipped without Florian <christoph_n> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/LibOReleaseEvents/LOPressKit -->| jeha (~Jens@dslb-084-063-158-147.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #documentfoundation -->| Jbfaure (~Jbfaure@ALyon-153-1-11-132.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #documentfoundation |<-- vardomescro has left freenode (Quit: Leaving) <sophi> christoph_n: I'm in the call but without micro, I've made a very rough feature list that I can send or add to the wiki <christoph_n> Cool! <sophi> hello ! :) <christoph_n> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Weekly_Summary -->| jza (~jza@189.221.142.175.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx) has joined #documentfoundation <jza> there is RC4 <sophi> we are in RC5 and in testing period <jza> RC5 yesterday <jza> so the launch is within next week <jza> for beta of course <MarcPare> sophi -- my email address is marc@marcpare.com -- Marc <sophi> MarcPare: ok, I'll send you the list, it's base on developers weekly reports <christoph_n> Topic 2: Server for surveys within LibreOffice / The Document Foundation, infrastructure preparations (Christoph) <christoph_n> http://devdemo2.limesurvey.org <MarcPare> Thanks Sophi <jza> Will the surveys be permanent or on demand? -->| fbircher (~unlogisch@pub082136123155.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) has joined #documentfoundation <sophi> christoph_n: it's also interesting because Limesurvey handle internationalisation <MarcPare> Great, that was my next question. <cloph> http://www.silverstripe.org/user-forms-module/ is available at the silverstripe install - for simple surveys, that can be used... <christoph_n> 3. Work on a slogan for the first LibreOffice release (proposed on the lists) Slogan Wiki page (Christoph) <christoph_n> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Slogan <_rene_> sophi: and there will be a rc6 ;) <christoph_n> sophi: What do you think about a slogan? <sophi> christoph_n: I added mine on FB : even a grand'ma can commit to LibO ;-) <cloph> (for reference/the minutes - multi-step/pages forms are also possible, but require a little bit more work (and cannot be done from within the cms alone, but requires writing some code): http://doc.silverstripe.org/modules:multiform - so when it gets that complex, I'd think using a dedicated survey software (and plugging it in with colorbox or something similar) is the way to goo in the long run) <christoph_n> sophi: Advertise on the users list? Or ask italo first? <sophi> christoph_n: ask Italo imho for basic direction |<-- gibi33 has left freenode (Quit: Leaving.) <christoph_n> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User_Experience/Events/User_Experience_Done_Live_2009 |<-- jrmuizel has left freenode (Quit: jrmuizel) -->| jrmuizel (~jrmuizel@mozca02.ca.mozilla.com) has joined #documentfoundation <sophi> have you already drink bissap ? it's African <sophi> it's made of hibiscus flowers and very tasteful :) <christoph_n> sophi: mmmhhhhh <sophi> http://www.congocookbook.com/beverages/jus_de_bissap.html <christoph_n> What color? Does it meet the requirements of the LibO branding? <christoph_n> Topic 4: Current branding / artwork status (Christoph) <christoph_n> http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/11/libreoffice-33-artwork-improvements.html <yorick_> Just add to the mix that I'm very keen on Lucas's design as a basis <christoph_n> Topic 5: Web site(drew) =-= yorick_ is now known as Graham_L -->| vardomescro (~jack@c-69-136-10-16.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #documentfoundation <christoph_n> Graham_L: Are you in the call? <Graham_L> I can't unfortunately <Graham_L> No local number <Graham_L> would cost me a fortune :) <christoph_n> Graham_L: Well, okay, sorry. There will be some minutes. <Graham_L> and not the best on dialup <davidnelson> got skype Graham? <sophi> Graham_L: you should try skype, we can discuss this together later if you would like ? <Graham_L> It's always been the problem with phone confs, good for those close to the centre <sophi> Graham_L: not with skype <Graham_L> Skype on Dialup is problematic <Graham_L> unreliable on an international connection <davidnelson> i was saying that you had lots of good comments to take into account about the website front page, Graham... <Graham_L> Is OK, I've learned to live with it, I'm getting close to a broadband solution :) <Graham_L> davidnelson, Heh, it's history repeating ;) But with the advantage that we don't have to take into account existing infrastructure <sophi> Graham_L: they are currently discussing the target audience of the pages on the site, content and stucture <davidnelson> i think you could maybe do a sketch of a front page as you visualize it <Graham_L> Cool, The coarse filtering that we worked out on the OOo frontend redesign was about as good as it gets <Graham_L> Main thing is, get the user to the destination that suits their needs in 15 seconds or less <cloph> ( http://test.libreoffice.org/ ) <christoph_n> cloph: Thanks! <Graham_L> whether it be newbie or developer, one off user or long time community member <olorin_> cloph: Yep, that looks more like what todays users expect. <Graham_L> cloph, love the language selection <Graham_L> Yep loads like greased lightning <sophi> yes, the site is very easy to manage, it's a real real pleasure compared to CEE ;) <olorin_> Hehe, well, making the page width dynamic might be an idea. <olorin_> sophi: Feast your eyes on this site: http://www.arngren.net/ <Graham_L> olorin_, it doesn't actually matter a lot, the user should only be there for 15 secs and it should be limited in links 10 at the most <Graham_L> and 5 of those on the link bar <Wheatbix> I must go <sophi> olorin_: ouch, incredible! <olorin_> Graham_L: Yep, a clean front page. <Wheatbix> I am sure I will talk to you all soon <cloph> (cudos for creating the structure-dummy pages doesn't go to me, but rather to Stefan and others though :-)) <olorin_> sophi: Hehe. |<-- Wheatbix has left freenode (Quit: Page closed) <Graham_L> olorin_, holy crap!! :D <olorin_> Graham_L: Hihi, yes, it's really terrible. <olorin_> Let's say we don't do it that way... <sophi> cloph: can't we change from 'your browser tells your language is fr, to your language is french? <christoph_n><Stefan_W> christoph_n: can we get the official logo (branding quidelines !) on the top of the website, please ;-) <christoph_n> Stefan_W: The new website? <cloph> sophi: That script currently is still an external one, but sure, in future it can be changed - just a matter of feedback/whether we want such a thing at all <Stefan_W> christoph_n: Yes |<-- guest has left freenode (Quit: Leaving) <Graham_L> sophi, That would be better, warmer feel <christoph_n> http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/11/website-progress-and-looking-back.html <sophi> cloph: I thinks it could be useful, but the code language doesn't say anything for most of my neighbours :) <olorin_> christoph_n: You look scary... ;-) <olorin_> Graham_L: geolocation rather than browser language maybe? <Graham_L> olorin_, LOL, It reminded me of the scary starry eyed penguin splash screen that mandrake used back in 09 I think :D <Graham_L> That wouldn't work in South africa <Graham_L> or India * cloph doesn't own a phone with web-access :-) - but there is http://silverstripe.org/mobile/ (and yes, css can always be modified, added/adjusted...) <olorin_> Graham_L: Hmm, ok. |<-- MPD has left freenode (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) <Graham_L> Ithink OOo has 11 localisations in SA <Graham_L> a similar number in India <Graham_L> Charles woul be more accurate about that than me <christoph_n> olorin_: I am :-) <sophi> I get the Russian site on my smartphone, and it looks good <Graham_L> christoph_n, :D <olorin_> cloph: Well, it does look a bit stupid when on a wide screen. * cloph has a 16:10 screen, but never use my browser in fullscreen mode, I prefer "portrait" aspect for my browser :-) <cloph> (1680x1050 on the desktop) <olorin_> 1920x1080 <Graham_L> same as olorin_ -->| genomega (~genomega@user-1120jad.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #documentfoundation <cloph> For those who want to modify the css and stuff/play with it locally http://www.mail-archive.com/website@libreoffice.org/msg01014.html <olorin_> Well, let's get the general feel in place for now and add this later. <Graham_L> Will do, I got my right hand back yesterday so I can actually get back into things <olorin_> Too much sword slinging? <Graham_L> typing up a storm after being stuck with lefthand only for a month <Graham_L> LOL, no, too many dangerous toys in the man cave <Graham_L> Or at least thats what my wife says <olorin_> Aw. <Graham_L> :) <sophi> skype has ejected me, so see you later, I need to go any way :) <Graham_L> Good to see you sophi <Graham_L> Bye <MarcPare> Cya <sophi> Graham_L: thanks :) bye -->| VolkerMe (~chatzilla@188-195-208-64-dynip.superkabel.de) has joined #documentfoundation <Graham_L> MarcPare, why am seeing the wordy page on the drupal test site, I like the graphic a lot better <christoph_n> Topic 6: Mission statement for LibreOffice? (Marc) <MarcPare> http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg01252.html <Graham_L> Please make sure to recognise the difference between "Vision" and "Mission Statement" <Graham_L> Two entirely different things. Vision= where we see ourselves in the future <Graham_L> Mission Statement = how we intend to get there <Graham_L> simpliified of course <christoph_n> I know :-) <Graham_L> Excellent <christoph_n> We are currently talking about whether this mailing list discussion is helpful ... and we talk about your contribution (in the past). <christoph_n> That is why I would like some good (and structured) approach to get there. I speak for myself, of course. <Graham_L> My ears are burning! ;) <MarcPare> Vision and Mission tie in to the branding as well <Graham_L> Indeed <Graham_L> christoph_n, Structured process is good, with a dedicated small team <MarcPare> I am just telling on concall that you are interested in this aspect of LO <Graham_L> Maillist chaos can be problematic especially when you can't type :D... <christoph_n> Graham_L: You may have some clue how hard it was to come up with something for the TDF team ... weeks ... and help from a small team :-) <Graham_L> Now I'm wearing my keyboard out, bit like the unchained tiger <Graham_L> Oooooh believe me I do <davidnelson> i lost the call brb <MarcPare> K <Graham_L> It's not an easy thing to do, big branding companies will sometimes work on such a thing for weeks with a team <MarcPare> Yes. <Graham_L> It looks easy, but it ain't <Graham_L> Ack coffee is empty BRB <MarcPare> Christoph is saying that OK to work on mission statement <MarcPare> maybe Graham you could join that thread then? <MarcPare> TDF roadmap has a mention of this -- working on the mission ok |<-- ottoshmidt has left freenode (Quit: Ex-Chat) <Stefan_W> christoph_n: Bravo! :-D <Stefan_W> :-) <christoph_n> Thanks all for participating (with or without microphone). <christoph_n> See you next time! <--| davidnelson has left #documentfoundation <christoph_n> MARKETING CONF CALL FINISHED