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What it's about

Discussions of the Board of Directors take place on public mailing lists. Once every two weeks, for those interested, we host a conference call on the phone, to discuss ongoing topics and recent activities directly. Everyone interested is invited to join, all callers can speak. The conference calls are open for everyone to join, following our approach to transparency and openness. Phone conferences with public participations Marketing/ConfCalls are available for marketing, and will be available for other projects soon.

Reaching the board outside regular meetings

You can always reach the board privately by mailing to info@documentfoundation.org, or (preferrably, since we're default-open) publicly by mailing to the board-discuss@documentfoundation.org public mailing list. If TDF officers can't make a call, or for ad-hoc meeting needs of TDF members, please ping one of the TDF administrators on the #tdf-infra connect via webchat IRC channel.

Some important notes

  • Although being public, these calls are not to be considered as official press statements for journalists. Journalists are invited to join, but for media Q & A, there will be separate sessions where official statements by TDF representatives are made.
  • Every call will be recorded and made available as uncut audio file to the public afterwards. If you join, you agree that you will be recorded.
  • We do not charge a fee for joining the calls. However, normal phone costs apply. Please check your provider for more details.

How to prepare yourself

  • Most topics we will discuss have been raised on our main mailing lists already, especially discuss and marketing. Please have a look at them, to stay up to date on recent activities.
  • Join our IRC channel #documentfoundation connect via webchat during the call, so in case we post links or texts, you are in the loop.

Next Call

Date and Time

The TDF BoD calls will take place every other Friday, 1300 Berlin time, starting February 28, 2020.

Important Notes

  • Contracts and obligations with third parties have to be approved by two BoD seat holders, amongst them the BoD chair, and in case (s)he cannot, the BoD deputy chair. Alternatively, a warrant can be issued by one of these.
  • Decisions need a quorum of 1/2 of the participating or represented BoD seat holders. If decisions are tied, the vote of the BoD chair (or his representative), and if not available, the vote of the BoD deputy chair (or his representative) are decisive.
  • People coming late or leaving early need to be mentioned in the minutes

Dial-in Details

The calls take place via Jitsi at https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/TDFBoard

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Minutes 2021-04-23

The Document Foundation
Board of Directors Meeting 2021-04-23
Meeting Minutes

Date: 2021-04-23
Location: Jitsi

Session chair: Lothar Becker
Keeper of the minutes: Stephan Ficht

In the meeting:

 Board - Emiliano Vavassori, Thorsten Behrens, Lothar Becker, Michael Meeks, Cor Nouws, Franklin Weng
 Board Deputies - Nicolas Christener, Paolo Vecchi
 Membership Committee -
 Membership Committee Deputies - Uwe Altmann
 Team - Sophie Gautier, Florian Effenberger, Stephan Ficht, Guilhem Moulin
 Community - Simon Phipps

Representation: Paolo for Daniel

Chairman of the Board is in the meeting. One of the Chairman or Deputy Chairman is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members are attending the call.

The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.

The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on, motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4.

The meeting commences at 13:03 Berlin time.


Public Part

1. Q&A: Answering Questions from the community (All, max. 10 min)

 Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF.
 + any questions? (Lothar)
 + sent new version of vision statement three weeks ago to all board members (Uwe) "Next decade manifesto: Result of the meeting 31.3." - 05.04.21, 10:16 Message-ID: <ae172a90-154e-6dc1-d929-4dd7e315e775@libreoffice.org>
     + up to now no response at all
     + did you get this mail?
 + email received (Thorsten)
 + just wanted to be sure that email arrived (Uwe)
     + email not received (Paolo)
 + waiting for decision from the board
 + got email an have to organize an answer (Lothar)
  + please send again to be sure to have the right one

2. Inform&Discuss: Status of annual filings and report (Florian, all 5min)

 * Status and feedback so far, deadline for feedback, initializing or running vote on it
 Rationale: We have filings and reports in public, so let's discuss in public first. We can move to private if needed.
   * financial report finalized
   * English activity report finalized
   * German activity report in final proofreading/review (Florian)
   * vote for approval sent to directors@
     -> Please vote, it runs until tomorrow, 16:22 Berlin time (14:22 UTC)
   * Florian to handle the filings then
 + doing the final bits and pieces (Florian)
  + finalizing the Annual Report
  + english version is finished already

3. Inform&Discuss: Status of FSF temporary suspension from the advisory

  board (Lothar, Florian, all 5min)
  + the board has discussed the matter, and concluded that at this time no further action is warranted
  + the topic is to be reviewed again in about 6 weeks

4. Discuss: Business entity (Thorsten, Uwe, Lothar, Florian, all 15min)

 * first meeting with attorney, summary and discussion, further steps, further help from attorney
 * Two existing proposals in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/NeBWm25cd2LHyoq - Germany and Luxembourg
 Rationale: We asked the public to send proposals, so let's discuss in public first. We can move to private if needed.
 + had call with attorney (Lothar)
 + just give some details (Thorsten)
  + then go to private if necessary
 + two options, German and Luxembourg entity (Florian)
   + TDF investments must have a perspective of generating revenues
   + need to find out how SIS can do that, thing seem easier for GmbH
   + needs clarification
 + questions on parameters and some fundamental questions raised
 + good conversation with the attorney (Lothar)
  + very helpful to have them with us
 + seconded (Thorsten, Uwe)
 + strongly recommended to talk with authorities in advance (Uwe)
   + will need a tax attorney for that
   + get written statement
 + would be nice to have proper answers from German Ministries/Authorities (Paolo)
   + as for the Luxembourg proposal
 + any questions? (Lothar)

Public meeting ends at 13:18 Berlin time.

Private Part

5. (optional) Discuss: Business entity (Thorsten, Lothar, Florian, all time incl. see above)

6. (optional) Discuss: Status of annual filings and report (Florian, all time incl. see above)

7. (optional) Discuss: Status of FSF temporary suspension from the advisory board (Lothar, Florian, all time incl. see above)

8. Inform&Discuss: Informing and Discussing about the idea to involve a company as new member in the advisory board (Lothar, Florian, all 5min)

  Rationale: Informing and discussing open questions and further process reason why in private: preliminary idea, names with it

9. Discuss&Plan: (Status of) Hiring a development mentor (Lothar, Nicolas, Florian, all 5min)

  Rationale: Informing and discussing open questions and further process
  reason why in private: Human resources

10. Discuss&Plan: Status of 2021 Running and planed tenders, tender framework (Florian, Lothar All 10min)

   Rationale: inform about preliminary status view of running and planing for next tenders according to tender framework searching for proposals of persons for tender roles
   reason why in private: Confidential items (like names, preliminary status view, fiscal issues, timeline)

Private meeting ends at 13:58 Berlin time.

Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)

Minutes 2021-03-12

The Document Foundation
Board of Directors Meeting 2021-03-12
Meeting Minutes

Date: 2021-03-12
Location: Jitsi

Session chair: Lothar Becker
Keeper of the minutes: Stephan Ficht

In the meeting:

   Board - Emiliano Vavassori, Lothar Becker, Thorsten Behrens, Michael Meeks
   Board Deputies - Paolo Vecchi, Nicolas Christener
   Membership Committee - Muhammet Kara
   Membership Committee Deputies - Uwe Altmann, Dennis Roczek, Shinji Enoki
   Team - Sophie Gautier, Stephan Ficht, Guilhem Moulin, Florian Effenberger
   Community -

Representation: Paolo for Daniel, Nicolas for Franklin

Chairman of the Board is in the meeting. One of the Chairman or Deputy Chairman is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 6 Board of Directors members are attending the call.

The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.

The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on, motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4.

The meeting commences at 13:03 Berlin time.

Public Part

1. Q&A: Answering Questions from the community (All, max. 10 min)

  Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF.
  + which appstores by business entity? (Dennis)
  + meaning per se or for the business entity proposal? (Lothar)
  + idea is to take over what is there Apple/Google/MS-stores (Thorsten)
   + potentially further venues
   + having some revenues to go further afterwards
  + a lot of places to put LO (Michael)
     + new entity doesn't have to do everything, or take over from volunteers
  + is there some concern or just by curiosity? (Thorsten)
   + just curious (Dennis)
   + taking over LO Vanilla to the appstores (Lothar)
   + confirm this is also in my proposal (Paolo)
   + can also cover future app stores, so no distinction
  + any thinking to provide apps for free? (Dennis)
     + in-app donations a good idea?
     + free and paid versions at the same time not allowed by app stores (Micahel)
       + would love to see clear data on effectiveness of in-app donation requests
       + may be useful to use in-app payment mechanisms, unclear; needs development
     + for-pay version - not mind if it continues for a while (Thorsten)
       + if engineering can be paid with ongoing revenue
       + turning that into something in-line with in-app donations could be interesting
       + does any of that block setting up a company?
          + parallelize setting it up, everything takes time to do
     + understanding of Dennis' q.: is such a business entity needed or getting it done by TDF (Lothar)

2. Discuss: Business entity (Thorsten, Florian, all 10min)

 * Two existing proposals in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/NeBWm25cd2LHyoq - Germany and Luxembourg
 * rescheduled after 4 weeks question and clarification, status of this
 * Question about ownership and mission/scope/rationale of business entity
 * Need to make some decision, one of the too proposals or can also be there's no entity in the next ~6-12 months
 * App stores: TDF's readiness wrt. tools and skills to provide, package and update app store binaries, plus documenting
 Rationale: We asked the public to send proposals, so let's discuss in public first. We can move to private if needed.
 + tax consultants contacted (Florian)
   + have 1-2 available, specialized in nonprofit and cross-country law
   + initial consultation offered for a fixed fee -> can take that with some board members
 + waiting for a phone appointment ~next week, on a related topic
 + had exchange with ministries (Paolo)
  + barrier of 1m turnover before filing more expensive accounts
  + ministry confirm it's ok for TDF to own this company.
  + concern was around not being able to send donations SIS -> TDF (Uwe)
     + should have an open way to transfer back to TDF
     + suggestion - to have 100% of the shares as a social purpose (Paolo)
       + this is what hinders giving money to TDF
       + they can do donations
       + asked this specifically in a meeting with the ministry
           + this is a special question (Uwe)
              + donations to owner of company is quite special
              + when SIS is not allowed to give money to the owners
       + question summary (Lothar)
          + if TDF is full owner of SIS, can it have get donations from it. (exchange of donations from SIS and its owner)
          + answer is yes (Paolo)
              + can try to get it in writing.
   + re-schedule for next BoD meeting? (Lothar)

AI: Florian to coordinate initial call with specialized tax consultant, Uwe wants to join too

AI: Lothar to add this as agenda item for the next board meeting

3. Discuss&Plan: Status and follow up of "next decade manifesto" writing process (Uwe (MC), Florian, all 10min)

 * Status and feedback so far, deadline for feedback
 * Short version, long version
 * further process
 Rationale: We asked the public to send proposals, so let's discuss in public first. We can move to private if needed.
 + expectations? (Lothar)
  + need to have some decisions (Uwe)
  + how the BoD wants to handle this?
  + made some proposal how we could go on
+ could you reflect this? (Lothar)
 + small changes in the paper, no/small feedback (Uwe)
 + appreciates Michael being one of the few giving one (Uwe)
 + confused wrt. how to give feedback - surprised to not comment in the document (Michael)
 + removing "we reject" is fine? (Uwe)
 + previous experience with red-lining documents was not too good
 + need to get everyone to work on it
 + what's normal procedure for this? (Uwe)
   + not working (Michael)
 + more stakeholders should give feedback on that (Lothar)
 + agree (Uwe)
   + but want to go step by step
   + want agreement from the board this version of the text goes to next round
 + could we decide now? (Lothar)
   + main problem is getting input at all (Michael)
 + "who says nothing agrees" (Uwe)
   + "speak now or forever hold your peace"
   + basic rules of how to act.
 + not in favor of sharing yet (Michael)
 + time-frame for people to have a look? (Lothar)
   + two weeks time for next board call, we table an item to widen the circle (Thorsten)
 + existing version to go on for feedback (Lothar)
 + seems to be differences here to be discussed (Michael)
 + how to give feedback? (Michael)
   + propose a separate meeting to discuss the text, can be public (Lothar)
   + prefers text over comment (Uwe)
   + prefers comments over edits (Thorsten)
   + not helpful, how to proceed with contradicting edits? (Uwe)
   + we'll have a meeting to resolve this (Michael)
     + Uwe to moderate this meeting
   + put doc on NC to discuss it (Uwe)

AI: Uwe, Lothar, Florian to schedule a meeting date to discuss about the second decade manifesto

Public meeting ends at 13:34 Berlin time.

Agenda items of Private Part

X. last-minute: tendering (Uwe)

4. (optional) Discuss: Business entity (Thorsten, Florian, all time incl. see above)

5. Discuss: (Status of) tender framework (Lothar, Nicolas, Florian, all 10min)

  Rationale: discussing open questions about roles and process
  reason why in private: discussion about roles and process details in tenders not for public
  - skipped -

6. Discuss&Plan: 2021 budget planning, final draft and further steps (Florian, All 15min)

  Rationale: bringing the budget to decisions and start activities
  reason why in private: confidential items (like HR), fiscal issues, timeline

Private meeting ends at 14:03 Berlin time.

Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)

Minutes 2021-02-26

The Document Foundation
Board of Directors Meeting 2021-02-26
Meeting Minutes

Date: 2021-02-26
Location: Jitsi

Session chair: Lothar Becker
Keeper of the minutes: Stephan Ficht

In the meeting:

   Board - Franklin Weng, Lothar Becker, Emiliano Vavassori, Michael Meeks, Daniel Rodriguez, Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws
   Board Deputies - Nicolas Christener, Paolo Vecchi
   Membership Committee Deputies - Uwe Altmann, Dennis Roczek
   Team - Stephan Ficht, Florian Effenberger, Guilhem Moulin, Sophie Gautier,
   Community - Gabriel Masei

Representation: None

Chairman of the Board is in the meeting. One of the Chairman or Deputy Chairman is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members are attending the call.

The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.

The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on, motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4.

The meeting commences at 13:02 Berlin time.

Public Part

1. Q&A: Answering Questions from the community (all, max. 10 min)

Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF.
+ any questions? (Lothar)
 + none

2. Discuss: Encourage / help local events in 2021 (Cor)

Reference: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3461
+ limitations to organize local events (Cor)
 + nothing happens in the Netherlands currently, likely similar in other countries
 + important to have this social feeling
 + how to overcome this period? want to collect ideas
+ Sophie collected local events and places of meeting (Lothar)
 + some areas missing
 + only small activities in Taiwan (eg articles translation on Facebook) (Franklin)
 + defining a default jitsi-room? (Lothar)
 + to run monthly/quarterly meeting?
 + need to have some TDF member open the room each time (Florian)
 + doing that for the DE-community (Florian)
 + new participants in the last call
 + having an alternating but regular DE-Call
 + had last meeting yesterday (Uwe)
 + how to reach pontential participants? (Lothar)
 + help local groups to do so (Cor)
   + invite them
   + maybe have blog about it
   + send reminder some time before scheduled meeting/call (Florian)
 + useful to create agenda? (Paolo)
   + get feedback from local groups for annual report (Florian)
 + any more ideas (Lothar)
 + do you use a pad to keep track? (Emiliano)
   + using pad or redmine (Florian)
   + mailing list (Uwe)
   + telegram channel (Sophie)
 + please share (Lothar)
 + matrix (Emiliano)
 + can open TDF resources (Florian)

Public meeting ends at 13:17 Berlin time.

Private Part

3. Discuss: Budget 2021 and Budget sheet, ranking in it, if needed first decisions of budget items

Reason why in private: confidential items (like HR), fiscal issues

Private meeting ends at 13:30 Berlin time.

Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)

Minutes 2021-02-12

The Document Foundation
Board of Directors Meeting 2021-02-12
Meeting Minutes

Date: 2021-02-12
Location: Jitsi

Session chair: Lothar Becker
Keeper of the minutes: Stephan Ficht

In the meeting:

   Board - Lothar Becker, Thorsten Behrens, Emiliano Vavassori, Michael Meeks, Cor Nouws
   Board Deputies - Paolo Vecchi, Nicolas Christener
   Membership Committee -
   Membership Committee Deputies - Uwe Altmann, Dennis Roczek
   Team - Heiko Tietze, Stephan Ficht, Sophie Gautier, Guilhem Moulin, Florian Effenberger
   Community -

Chairman of the Board is in the meeting. One of the Chairman or Deputy Chairman is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members are attending the call.

The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.

The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on, motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4.

The meeting commences at 13:02 Berlin time.

Public Part

1. Q&A: Answering Questions from the community (All, max. 10 min)

  Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF.
  + any questions? (Lothar)
  + next decade manifesto (Uwe)
  + seeking feedback, received from Cor so far
  + sent mail yesterday
   + how will the process got on
   + Lothar/Emiliano will reply the next days

2. Discuss: Business entity (Thorsten, Florian, all 15min)

 * Two existing proposals in https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/NeBWm25cd2LHyoq - Germany and Luxembourg
 * No further proposals sent by FOSDEM
 * Question about ownership and mission/scope/rationale of business entity
 * Need to make some decision, can also be there's no entity in the next ~6-12 months
 * App stores: TDF's readiness wrt. tools and skills to provide, package and update app store binaries, plus documenting
 Rationale: We asked the public to send proposals, so let's discuss in public first. We can move to private if needed.
 + time passed since last discussions (Thorsten)
  + two existing proposals Luxembourg and Germany (Florian)
  + nothing further received so far
 + think a fully owned subsidiary is the only real option (Thorsten)
    + scope: app-store binaries, currently done by ecosystem partners, the thing for the entity
 + propose start with TDF itself (Paolo)
    + see what we can do directly as TDF.
    + unless we find a compelling reason to create an additional org.
 + prefer a separate entity for risk isolation (Michael)
    + not sure that this is needed (Paolo)
    + no disagreement useful to have one (Thorsten)
       + clash was over how much control TDF has
       + impression this was settled.
       + asking for proposals to domicile that
       + priorities are valid, not tying up board/staff time
          + specific to those people setting up the entity
       + reasons why we want to do that did not go away
       + things not inside the remit of TDF can be done easily there
    + if absolute need to do it ASAP (Paolo)
       + can we have a clear proposal with compelling reasons?
    + anything that is now hindered by not having it as an entity? (Lothar)
       + conflict was around control by TDF side
       + if this is settled, ok with that.
    + app-store binaries, keep granting licenses for (Thorsten)
       + at some stage - no need to do anything, not urgent
       + but we want to get on with it
    + need to compare both proposals (Lothar)
       + some discussion left between these two.
    + agreed (Thorsten)
       + entity and where, interesting from legal details
       + more interesting are the people running it.
       + who is willing to run it?
    + would be willing to run admin part in Germany (Uwe)
       + would need a technical director, or more of a concept.
       + willing to help when he can
       + or perhaps the actual engineering work could be outsourced initially
    + would be willing to run 'TDF services' in Luxembourg (Paolo)
       + an extension of TDF, a mixed executive team
       + doesn't need to be me
       + can go and lobby on behalf of TDF/community
       + languages are easy: French, English, German
       + attached letter from the ministry.
       + tasks should be kept simple, eg. manage app-storesthen agree tasks & people
       + Lionel - informally offered to help out here (Michael)
         + an expert in this.
         + would need a specific type of accountant (Paolo)
            + a limited company; can perform activities
            + on top bound by other regulations as non-profit.
            + can receive donations, tender in public sector
            + constraint - use a chartered accountant
            + Lionel said his org doesn't do that.
            + pleased to have him involved
         + important for me to include Lionel (Michael)
    + Canadian option not do-able with TDF as owner (Lothar)
    + german 'Genossenschaft' was mentioned, but will not work (Lothar)
    + is the mission of the business entity clearly defined? (Cor)
    + mission quite clear: deal with the app stores (Paolo)
    + agree with this approach (Thorsten)
    + what about tenders, giving development a boost? (Cor)
       + keeping it focused on app-stores for now (Paolo)
    + how to proceed? (Lothar)
      + Paolo to meet with Lionel, Thorsten with Uwe (Thorsten)
      + at some stage: 3 options:
           + don't do it, Luxembourg or German
           + then either consensus, or a split vote on what is on the table.
      + will meet Lionel, but if we decide Luxembourg (Paolo)
          + but don't need his involvement.
          + ensure a trusted third-party will be involved
          + would love to have him involved in the governance (Michael)
          + clarify and get back in four weeks (Lothar)
   + have it done in four weeks? (Lothar)
      + no issue with that (Paolo)

AI: have this in a board meeting in 4 weeks again with a preparation

      + if there are questions, applicants can clarify (Thorsten)
         + need to make an informed decision
         + good to have a clearly superior decision there
   + it should be clear how the money is spent (Heiko)
      + what it is spent for and how.
      + take a look at the documents (Lothar)
         + if other questions, ask Paolo/Thorsten.

Public meeting ends at 13:28 Berlin time.

Private Part

3. (optional) Discuss: Business entity (Thorsten, Florian, all time incl. see above)

4. Discuss: (Status of) Strategy discussion (Lothar, Florian, all 20min)

  Rational: more time for that, kicking off consensual action items, priorities of the big items
  reason why in private: discussion of preliminary ideas, pictures, priorities, goals...

5. Discuss&Plan: 2021 budget planning, draft (Florian, All 15min)

  Rationale: if needed first decisions of budget items in the sheet, PLEASE fill in all your items/proposals in this sheet until Friday, clarify new numbers in last year budgets, check for dublicates
  reason why in private: confidential items (like HR), fiscal issues timeline

The meeting ends at 14:00 Berlin time.

Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)

Minutes 2021-01-30

The Document Foundation
Board of Directors Meeting 2021-01-30
Meeting Minutes

Date: 2021-01-30
Location: Jitsi

Session chair: Lothar Becker
Keeper of the minutes: Stephan Ficht

In the meeting:

   Board - Lothar Becker, Cor Nouws, Thorsten Behrens, Michael Meeks, Franklin Weng, Emiliano Vavassori, Daniel Rodriguez
   Board Deputies - Paolo Vecchi, Nicolas Christener
   Membership Committee - Marina Latini, Muhammet Kara
   Membership Committee Deputies - Shinji Enoki, Uwe Altmann, Dennis Roczek
   Team - Stephan Ficht, Florian Effenberger, Sophie Gautier, Heiko Tietze, Mike Saunders, Guilhem Moulin, Italo Vignoli
   Community - Andreas Reinisch

Representation: (See https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ subject "Representation statements")

Chairman of the Board is in the meeting. One of the Chairman or Deputy Chairman is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members are attending the call.

The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.

The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on, motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4.

The meeting commences at 11:04 Berlin time.

Public part

1. Welcome, introduction, invitation, representation and quorum (Lothar/Franklin, 5 minutes)

  Presentation of the agenda, confirmation of proper invitation, handle representation statements and determine quorum.
  * Full board present, incl. chair and deputy
  * We are quorate
  * Agenda and slides available
  * Lothar presents the agenda and timeline
  * Lothar asks how Corona situation is affecting everyone
  * He wishes we could meet in person
  * unclear situation wrt. LibOCon, in-person meeting from all continents unlikely, but maybe a hybrid mode - should know more later this year (Lothar, Thorsten, Florian)
  * great tools available now for videoconferencing (Paolo)

2. Update on key goals (Florian, 15 minutes)

  An update on the various key goals, where we stand and what the next steps are.
  1. Streamline tendering process, sign two tenders and get them delivered (Nicolas, Lothar, Florian)
  * explaining using prepared slides (Florian)
   + split work with different people (Nicolas)
    + list of requirement of tenders
    + create table to summarize and weigh
   + rough idea of criteria (Lothar)
    + better way to come to conclusion
    + learned to give more details for the role model
   + share docs in the aftermath (Florian)
  2. Hire development mentor, grow pool of code committers (all)
  + shared a few days ago (Florian)
   + first interviews and informal contacts
  + explaining slides (Italo)
   + Dashboard: volunteer (best guess) are Assigned + Unknown + (Unknown) (Michael)
   + issue is solved (Italo)
   + good to balance the data with the number of committers by affiliation (Michael)
  3. Grow non-coding community (Ilmari, Mike)
  + ongoing thing, explainig slides (Mike)
  4. (Virtual) Hackfests where coders and non-coders meet (Mike, Ilmari)
  + in person meeting not possible for pandemic reasons (Florian)
  5. Marketing plan, younger contributors, OpenOffice users (Italo, Mike)
  + announcement next wednesday (Italo)
  + press release prepared and going public asap
  + improve website and wording
  + collateral activities
  + will happen after FOSDEM
  + virtual FOSDEM huge drain of time
  + any help needed? (Lothar)
  + getting younger contributors (Mike)
   + 'New Generation' started yesterday
   + big audience reacting
   + have things to offer
   + many more things to do
   + open letter well received
   + people speaking about 'OpenOffice' but meaning indeed LibreOffice
  + doubled download delta Aoo - LO
  6. Evaluating tooling, e.g. Discourse for AskBot, incl. tools for participation improvement (Sophie, Ilmari)
  7. Campus program for student ambassadors (Italo)
  + everything frozen on universities due to pandemic (Italo)
   + will keep in touch with the people
  + sth in parallel (Marina)
   + university of Perugia, Umbria
  8. Business entity (Paolo, Thorsten, Michael)
  + no news (Florian)

3. Overview on downloads, budget and donations (Florian, Mike, Italo, 5 minutes)

  Update on our budget, download numbers and the status of donations.
  + how is working CiviCRM? (Thorsten)
   + some actual issues going to be solved asap (Florian)

4. Various, quick questions and answers, closing of the public part, and invitation to next public board meeting (Lothar/Franklin, 5 minutes)

  A few minutes for questions and answers. Everyone is invited to continue the discussion in the next public board meeting on February 12.
  + any other questions? (Lothar)
  + GDPR question (Uwe)
   + clarified in the meetings later (Lothar)
  + number of OpenOffice conversions (Dennis)
   + any stats? (Dennis)
   + could start to track (Mike)

Public meeting ends at 11:48 Berlin time.

Private part

5. Reports from the areas of oversight (all, 15 minutes)

6. Introduction and overview on our budget process and ranking mechanism (Florian, 20 minutes)

7. Strategy and vision for 2021 and beyond (all, 100 minutes)

7.1 Roundtable, where everyone can choose any number of topics (or no topics at all) to share their comments and thoughts about where they want to be at the end of this board's term (up to 15 minutes each, but no discussion at this phase)

7.2 Roundtable, where everyone can choose any number of comments from 7.1 to give feedback.

8. Closing round: Feelings, expectations, goals by LibOCon (all, 15 minutes)

Private meeting ends at 14:17 Berlin time.

Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)

Minutes 2021-01-15

The Document Foundation
Board of Directors Meeting 2021-01-15
Meeting Minutes

Date: 2021-01-15
Location: Jitsi

Session chair: Lothar Becker
Keeper of the minutes: Stephan Ficht

In the meeting:

   Board - Michael Meeks, Lothar Becker, Thorsten Behrens, Daniel Rodriguez, Franklin Weng, Cor Nouws, Emiliano Vavassori
   Board Deputies - Nicolas Christener
   Membership Committee -
   Membership Committee Deputies - Uwe Altmann
   Team - Florian Effenberger, Stephan Ficht, Heiko Tietze, Sophie Gautier, Italo Vignoli
   Community -

Representation: None (See https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ subject "Representation statements")

Chairman of the Board is in the meeting. One of the Chairman or Deputy Chairman is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call.

The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders (not including deputies). In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 or more of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members are attending the call or are represented.

The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundation's articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting.

The meeting is quorate and invitation happened in time. From now on, motions can be passed with the agreement of a simple majority of those remaining present. The majority threshold is currently 4.

The meeting commences at 13:04 Berlin time.

Public part

Reminder

  pre-FOSDEM meeting on Saturday, January 30, all day
    -> agenda and timetable draft shared today with BoD,
    -> will be made public next week

1. Q&A: Answering Questions from the community (All, max. 10 min)

  Rationale: Provide an opportunity for the community to ask questions to the board and about TDF.
  + any questions? (Lothar)
  + FOSDEM agenda sent out (Florian)

2. Discuss&Plan: 2021 budget planning, draft (Thorsten, Florian, All 10min)

  Rationale: Preparation for FOSDEM meeting, status of planning, missing bits and pieces, feedback so far, timeline
  * first draft of the 2020 closing ledgers and the budet is in Nextcloud - TDF Board - Budget 2021
    * budget_2021.ods - preliminary budget draft
    * closing_preliminary.pdf - preliminary closing ledgers
    * italo_community.ods - community requests compiled by Italo
    * reserves_template.xls - accountant reserves spreadsheet template
    * https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021 - ESC requests compiled by Heiko
  * next steps: finalizing proposals, adding latest numbers and late 2020 payments, ETA ~next week
  * first round of approvals on January 30, pre-FOSDEM meeting
  + clarifying the process (Lothar)
  + preliminary meeting (Florian)
   + spreadsheet for planning
   + 30k for community and marketing each proposed by Italo
   + topics worth tendering (Heiko)
    + Thorsten/Heiko to work on it
    + final decision end of next week
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021
   + want to ensure people are aware of the process and timelines (Michael)
    + everyone should give feedback and be able to make their proposals
    + started very late (Heiko)
    + there are proposals
    + good reason to go in tender
    + not announced as please-participate-here
    + who can vote? only ESC members? (Heiko)
       + ESC advises board, BoD makes final decisions (Michael)
    + do this earlier next year & advertise widely (Michael)
       + in October - we should start this process

AI: + on Florian's calendar -> kick off at LibOCon (Florian)

       + list of good topics (Heiko)
       + list from last year has been taken to this year
       + list based on bugzilla

3. Discuss&Plan: Business entity - next steps (Thorsten, All 10min)

  Rationale: 5 mins status update, 5 mins planning next steps
  + Why call it TDC? There was another name proposed (Michael)
     + TDF2 or TDF Business entity? (Thorsten)
       + call for proposals out long enough
       + maybe give another four weeks notice time
       + still see need for business entity
       + should go forward with that, evaluating options on the table
       + or decide to not do it
  + want to know if we look into it or not in next 12 months (Florian)
  + we voted on priorities some weeks ago (Lothar)
     + was ranked not in the 1st place.
     + does that prevent somebody to work on it? (Thorsten)
        + otherwise mail the BoD discuss list again - 2 week deadline?
     + on the FOSDEM agenda anyway (Florian)
        + so announce now, discuss there.
     + could be helpful to have a clear idea for the reason for it (Uwe)
        + looking at the last months' development.
        + more and more in doubt if there is so much need for it.
        + can imagine some useful things to do with it, if it exists.
        + perhaps the 'why' is more important.
     + the need is stronger than before (Thorsten)
        + some paralysis set in.
  + is the Question what problem do we try to solve? (Florian)
     + form would be more obvious if we know what we want to do (Uwe)
        + a vision for what it does, not a business plan
     + my take is very clear (Michael)
      + we restricted the scope to make it un-controversial
      + plan: put PC apps in the app store & re-invest funds into development.
      + not sure if everyone has the same sight Michael has (Uwe)
       + still a plan to put things into the app stores?
       + plan was to have PC apps in the app stores (Michael)
       + be careful of open-ended questions, what could we do with the entity?
       + not the question of what could do, what is the goal of the company? (Uwe)
       + founding articles, what's the goal of the company?
       + not what it could do, but what it shall do in the next six months?
       + e.g. what right now TDF has subcontracted ecosystem companies with (Thorsten)
   + proposal - mail the list, have a discuss item on the FOSDEM agenda (Thorsten)

Public meeting ends at 13:23 Berlin time.

Agenda items of Private Part

4. Discuss: Second Decade Manifesto (Florian, all, 10 minutes)

  Reason why not in public: Internal discussion in the board, then sharing with members and wider community
  Rationale: Discussion about the status quo of the Second Decade Manifesto and the next steps

5. Discuss: Advisory board seat request A (Thorsten, Florian, All 5min)

  Reason why not in public: Possibility for confidential Q&A
  Rational: Q&A, plan for decision making

Franklin Weng leaves the call at 13:36. Nicolas Christener to represent Franklin Weng.

6. Inform: Introduction possible new advisory board member B (Thorsten, All 5min)

  Reason why not in public: Requester asking for confidentiality for the while, possibility for confidential Q&A
  Rational: Q&A, plan for decision making

7. Discuss: Sync on pending tender (Florian, non-CoI'ed board, 5 min)

  Reason why not in public: Discussion about tender to be awarded
  Rationale: Final discussion and decision on pending tender

Private meeting ends at 13:49 Berlin time.

Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)


 + Now we are here:
      + 1&1 -> 1 developer
      + Munich -> 1 developer
      + TDF -> went from 1 to 2
      + RedHat -> ~2 developers
      + RedHat -> 2 developers
      + NISZ -> 3 developers
      + CIB -> 7 developers
      + Collabora -> 25 developers
      + and some more volunteers.
  • The ecosystem is not growing, but not shrinking ~40 paid developers
       + very little virtuous cycle driving growth in sales -> feature / function
  • What does the ecosystem do ? (Michael)
       + ~70% of commits from ecosystem companies
               + tend: larger features, longer term development, maintenance, GSOC ++ mentoring
       + ~30% of commits community
               -> but ~70%+ of mentoring is companies.
       + look at how a project looks like with volunteers but no commercial ecosytem:
               + Apache OpenOffice -> good people ...
  • What does it look like in money ? (Thorsten)
       + easy to work out from our annual report
       + estimations ->
               + avg. TDF staff member FTE cost order of Eur 50k without overheads
               + So 40 people at TDF would cost ~Eur 2 million
       + TDF spends ~Eur 150k on feature development / tenders
         outside of fixed-costs per annum currently
               + do it in-house:
               + we could pay 3 people with that
  • The ecosystem provides a 10x multiplying factor for development
       => TDF is the tip of the iceberg that is the ecosystem.
       => We cannot meet our purpose or sustain the product without a healthy ecosystem.
  • Compromises to drive the ecosystem / pull money into it & TDF: (Michael)

- no LTS - short, frequent release cycles

       + neither of these seem to deter mass use in business.

- nag dialogs, info bar stuff -> to drive TDF donations

       + community members unhappy ... -> professional product.

- tell people software is un-supported when inappropriately using Online - important for TDF to have users visiting download page, also for downloading security updates for LibreOffice

       + live updates provided by community as a patch / feature.
         + not enabled.
       + we know: when we don't update the "new version" XML
         + donations drop substantially
         + TDF is funded by people visiting the download page
       => Example -> providing free LibreOffice in an app-store
               + self-updating, no need to visit TDF ...
               + sounds wonderful - but potentially deeply problematic for TDF & sustainability.
               + needs to be looked at -very- carefully.

Thorsten - People sometimes confuse paying for a product, when donating (c.f. feedback we see on Ask and Bugzilla)

       + normal feedback "I paid, but can't download"

- TDF download donations sometimes believed to drive feature development

       + implement feature with money.
  • Desktop is quite different:
       - Online - currently scarcity: source code, only development binary dockers of online

- CIB & C'bra charging for LibreOffice in app-stores & re-investing - perhaps others.

  • The "non-contributor" problem
    + Developers:
    + Munich -> initially didn't contribute to the code -> then saw the light & joined us
    + Linagora -> no significant contributions from whole French Gov't.
    + Brazil -> 1 million users -> no paid developers until recently.
    + others: RedHat/Collabora/CIB - contribute all their code back.
         + work as members of the community.

Conclusions (Michael)

       + why is ecosystem success seen as failure ?
       + why is the ecosystem 'othered' as non-community ?
       "The foundation promotes a *sustainable*, independent and meritocratic community for the international *development* of free and open source software based on open standards."
  • "The only constant is change" (Thorsten)
       Change is inevitable, and necessary -but- those who advocate for change without careful consideration of the consequences must bear responsibility.
       Need to assess, and balance - with the other compromises listed
       if parameters change substantially, we need a plan to substitute for what we're certainly loosing then in terms of ecosystem contribution.
       Lets not loose again after loosing Sun, IBM, Linux Distros ...
  • Uwe:
      Revenue: is 90% of your revenue from the app-stores?
          + ~5% of revenue from app-stores (Michael-as-Collabora)
          + insubstantial revenue currently from app-stores (Thorsten)
      Breakdown of revenue? (Michael-as-Collabora)
          + consultancy is a smaller part of revenue
          + product is a large part; can see sectors Education/Government/Business ...
      Changing the overall setup -> needs a plan (Thorsten)

Do we know that downloads leads directly to donations? (Heiko)

     + there is a graphic showing the correlation (Florian)
          + lets get it from Italo.
     + updater XML was not updated -> massive drop in donations (Florian)
          + S/W did not show the notifiation - a significant drop; July 2017/2018
     + hard to imagine that no linux user ever donates (Heiko)
          + not what is said - but the *majority* of donation driven by visits to download page
          + popup of course also drives people to donate (Michael)

abstract (AI):
+ overall number of developers shrinking
+ need money in the ecosystem to pay staff in TDF and elsewhere
+ address the "non-contributor" problem
+ the direct relation downloads/donations
AI: Italo: provide graphics downloads/donations
AI: define procedure to bring in the information

Rationale: Discussion, relevance and dependencies for TDF

3. Discuss: Quick check of fitting prerequisites and procedure of the vote for the next agenda item (Lothar, Board members, All 5 minutes)

Rationale: Clarifying about voting of the next agenda item

    + Now is not the time for a vote - so no need.

4. Discussing about proposal of Paolo: (Paolo, Board members 15 minutes)

   + Interesting discussion of ecosystem, linked to all of these things.
        + everyone knows there is a need for a commerical ecosystem out there
        + naturally balance the needs of commercial ecosystem with drive & spirit of TDF
        + in the statues - can read about commercial partners
        + scope / objective - make all software we develop Android,Windows,MacOS easily usable by users
             + development has to be user centered
        + LibreOffice Online
             + takes a good deal of effort to provide a FLOSS package that TDF is obliged to deliver
             + today have Marco, been working with him in another project
             + making it available for a school - with no budget for this
             + TDF in theory is obliged to make free software available to all to be used
             + have to increase the user-base of this platform, and increase committers.
       + personally - told - feeling at the moment by some developers
            + would like to contribute, but wondering, contributing to TDF / Collabora
            + a mixed-message coming out there.
            + clarify what is LibreOffice Online - and who is maintaining it
            + when someone contributes where that contribution will go
       + at the same time - have to tell everyone (Paolo)
            + use it for personal use, non-profit org, school - duty to give it for free:
                + always been part of the plan.
                + a bit late in implementing.
                + have to support those who have been contributing to the project
                     + Collabora, CIB
                     + recognize their efforts though marketing & advertising
                     + not to use in enterprises without support.
                + make it available to everybody, make it easy to use.
                + recognize - something much better from a technical & ethical POV
                    + than other platforms out there.
                + some other organizations
                    + LibreOffice Online is integrated - decided to start promoting other types of similar platforms.
                    + as easy as possible to promote LibreOffice Online
               + will need professional support.
               + going out with a TDF branded LibreOffice
                   + we are here for the community / duty to give the free version
                   + look at our long list of commercial partners & developers.
                   + even increasing opportunities of revenue.
                       + are limited - personally by commercial offering has been put together
                       + Michael & Thorsten - can confirm - long discussion before became part of BoD - so that we can together re-tune the offering, getting revenue to contribute to the project.
                  + have to increase the number of companies that contribute to this project.
                  + spirit of proposition
                      + agreed to have it discussed.
  • Fundamentally difference Desktop / Online (Thorsten)
    + hard for end-users to install Online too.
    + it is worth reflecting on this - lets have a plan, a careful assessment & compromise
    + a discussion to be had - TDF helping the commercial ecosystem (Paolo)
       + with an increased number of users.
       + Univention makes it easy - for non-techies to use LOOL
       + still need technical expertise.
       + thinks TDF would need to host it themselves (Thorsten)
           + for the world out there _that_ is the easy way to use it
           + but believe that is out of scope for TDF
           + challenges that we are required to do that
           + if we are to make it easily digestible - provide binaries?
  • Keen to get LibreOffice Online into lots of people's hands (Simon)
    + tried to use it himself.
    + as it is designed & architected - hard for individual user to deploy
    + even given a working docker container
        + handling of certificates
        + hosting in containers
        + is beyond the skills of many, many people.
   + an alternative proposal:
       + without inadvertently harming the businesses in the ecosystem
       + start - by making available a version for Raspberry Pi
       + making one that is designed to use with Nextcloud's RPI distro
       + also have an appliance that they sell here
       + work with Rene & Raspberry-Pi ecosystem
       + that works on your internal network - with just IP addresses
       + no nasty signing certificates
       + not intended for internet use
       + but would work within a household, small business, and/or inside a school.
   + do this as an on-ramp
       + and avoid accidentally destroying Collabora / CIB
   + paper about this in the members area on TDF nextcloud
   + take this forward instead of this unfortunately poorly thought out proposal.
  • Remark as an aside (Uwe)
   + Paolo's pronunciation is as bad as his - can't understand what was said
   + suggests Paolo to have something written down to prepare it.
   + a request from Simon as well (Lothar)
  • Look forward to written ideas (Cor)
   + with background & discussions, like Simon's suggestion here
   + know lots of people enthusiastic there.
  • asked for community to speak up (Michael)
 * unhelpful of referring to ecosystem as "other" people
 * clear ask to solve the marketing problems, was skipped
 * build consensus before bring a vote to avoid dividing community unnecessarily
 * LOOL already in Nextcloud, ownCloud etc.
 * some of these versions don't refer to LibreOffice, are white-labelled
 * we might need to get used to LibreOffice Online not to be called LibreOffice Online
 * avoid TDF duplicating work done by ecosystem members
 * marketing could be significantly improved
 * looking at things in a balanced way, voting right now is premature
 * not against TDF distributing LibreOffice Online
    * good thing to grab bull by horns & discuss it
    * significant improvement in marketing required for TDF to provide LOOL binaries
 + would like a paper to bring these ideas together (Lothar)
  • Clarify the situation (Paolo)
  + in the agenda just a few points of a ticket that has been opened in internal systems
  + with a longer description of the project
  + didn't just come out and say - lets vote for it.
  + when something not moving - indeed tends to push hard
     + so just go for a vote
     + then convert it into a conversation / discussion
     + many other people would like to provide their feedback.
     + so it may not be what it seems.
 + lots more can be known - including the economical side
     + not been told by commercial ecosystem
     + what is the damage that we cause you ?
         + if we go out with a branded version of LibreOffice Online
         + we don't know.
 + how to proceed further ? (Lothar)
    + would like to continue discussion about ecosystem on members list (Sophie)
    + give E-mails to the internal list
    + any reason not to do it on board-discuss in public ? (Thorsten)
         + propose to default to public if possible.
         + propose hint members to members list (Florian)
 + how do we get to this document ? (Lothar)
    + get a few efforts to do this concrete LibreOffice Online theme.
    + who are the people to lead & build consensus ? (Michael)
        + many of TDF's problems intersect.
        + next next decade manifesto would be my hope
            + circumstances have changed as we saw in the ecosystem talk
            + we actually need to deeply care about the ecosystem too.
   + clarify - Paolo - responsible for bringing a document for a vote (Lothar)
       + plenty written already
       + would like to do this with Paolo (Franklin)
           + have difficulty to build a LOOL instance recently
       + concern is how you say it (Cor)
           + prepare a 1st document that we build on to create something sustainable or a good base.
           + you mentioned the word 'vote'
              + no (Lothar)
           + result should be content for a later stage for voting (Lothar)
       + we need some written content which we can compromise on
       + if we have a discussion in public (Cor)
          + come up with the best proposal possible - discussion in public.
  + poor choice of committee (Michael)
      + sorry for being a poor choice (Franklin)
       + the ability to reach out to building a durable compromise is vital
       + not convinced this composition achieves this.
       + we have a concrete proposal from Simon (Thorsten)
          + build another proposal, while we work on Simon's ?
   + work on a procedure for documents (Lothar)
      + Franklin/Michael/Paolo/Thorsten
      + just did -> as of now, work in public with Simon's proposal (Thorsten)
          + get it into a proposal we can vote on.
          + happy to hear other proposals
      + today learned something about the Raspberry Pi (Paolo)
         + original issue was - to make available in general LibreOffice Online on general platforms
         + have another project running in the background.
      + Proposal (Florian)
         + everyone is free to come up with a proposal.
         + Thorsten/Michael/Simon came up with this one
         + something is done -> can share in public
         + what is proceeded in a board call
         + no problem with lots of proposals.
    + plea for people to work constructively with others (Michael, Paolo)
        + unhappy; process to vote first, then think is nearly un-precedented (Michael)

abstract (AI):
+ need for a balanced commercial ecosystem
+ software to be easily usable by any users regardless the OS used
+ easy to promote LibreOffice Online
+ Fundamentally difference Desktop vs. Online
+ need to increase users
+ solve marketing problems
+ consensus to avoid dividing community
+ discussion just started, to be continued in public
AI: define procedure to get written ideas/proposals
AI: agenda item for next BoD call, public part
AI: Franklin, Paolo, Thorsten, Michael to work on a proposal for discussion in public later on
AI: in one of next BoD Call bring in as agenda item: How to get a "next next decade manifesto" (Lothar)

   + comment: minutes are late (Florian)
       + if you can look at them - would be helpful.
   + 27 people in the room - works more or less properly with Jitsi (Lothar)

Voting proposal via Mail from Paolo Vecchi at 16.05., 13.15 UTC+2: "...

Enable the infrastructure team to deliver the following packages with TDF and LibreOffice branding: - docker images - ownCloud connector (from which we have already got confirmation of acceptance) for LOOL - once that is in place I will ask NextCloud for the opportunity to do the same - Univention marketplace packages for LOOL - all packages and connectors will be maintained and updated on a monthly basis unless urgent patches/bug fixes are required sooner - the latest stable version of LOOL code will be used to build the images - the infrastructure oversight team will ensure that all issues that may impede the execution of this plan are identified and solved promptly - the infrastructure oversight team should evaluate, and report back to the BoD, if TDF should use its own Gerrit server for LOOL or Collabora's see ticket https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132349 - LibreOffice branded documentation/help files should be created to make it as easy as possible to install docker images/Univention packages - TDF's LOOL packages will be free and supported only by the community. No paid/support options will be made available by TDF - In the download page it will be made clear that if LOOL is used in enterprise environment support options are available through the members of TDF's ecosystem

At a later stage eventual limitations in terms of concurrent users/documents will be discussed. ..."

Rationale: explanation of voting item(s), getting a valid voting result on Paolos proposal as described above

5. Discuss: Status of redmine tickets of the board (Thorsten, All 10min)

Rationale: Clarifying which tickets/list, what todos, who is caring, until when

+ just to make sure board knows where action items are
+ postponed to next call

Public part ends 14:02 Berlin time.

Private Part

- No topic in private so far -

Lothar Becker (Session chair)
Stephan Ficht (Keeper of the minutes)