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Hello, could you add some instructions how to add/download not only core but also dictionaries, help and translations so localized builds could be built? Also, could you please add instructions to build lang-packs on macOS and Windows? Thank you!

The instructions are found in the page Development/Submodules. What is your proposal exactly? Where do you want to add something, how to present it etc.? I have no idea on how to build lang-packs.--Beluga (talk) 2020-10-27T07:58:03 (UTC)

Hi Beluga, I apologise for breaking this, is it recoverable? https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office If it is "really" bad I am OK for you to undo all of my additions. I'll have to read up on: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_administration#Changing_the_source_text and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Page_translation_administration#Markup_examples --Mars (talk)

How is it broken?
--Beluga (talk) 2021-10-14T10:16:38 (UTC)
I have added lots of rows in the online section, and I have avoided translation bits, is this something that can be added or fixed?
--Mars (talk)
Well, it was not a big deal, see my cleanups.
  • you had used the {{#translation:}} template in places where it does not belong (it is for dynamically adding a language suffix)
  • you had left out the {{#translation:}} template in some uses of the yes/no/partial templates
  • you had used no and partial templates with uppercase first letter in a couple of places
  • you had not wrapped content in translate elements
For a guide on translation stuff, see TDF_Wiki/Multilingual#Content_with_global_focus
--Beluga (talk) 2021-10-15T12:38:48 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for fixing the translations up, a big job! I have added a new row called "Thesuarus", I added translation syntax this time, it needs to have translation numbers(markers) added. The instructions say not to add them as they are added automatically, is this all I should be doing? I don't want to be creating more work. Do you add these numbers(markers) manually? your last edit would suggest so. Thanks --Mars (talk) 2021-10-16T04:05:04 (UTC)
Hi, I also just added rows "Translate" and "Check Accessibility" with some translation syntax, not markers. --Mars (talk)
You can try what the instructions say: "When you add or change content in the source page, this will appear at the top of the page: This page has changes since it was last marked for translation. Click the link "marked for translation" to bring the translation system up to date following the same process as in the initial marking for translation."
--Beluga (talk) 2021-10-16T07:45:56 (UTC)
At this stage I'll leave the "Mark this version for Translation" to someone else, or for a while anyway; I notice that someone already corrected my spelling of "Thesaurus", there may be grammar and more inconsistencies to correct. I think I understand the basics of how translation works now.--Mars (talk) 2021-10-17T02:20:09 (UTC)--Mars (talk) 2021-10-17T02:20:09 (UTC)

Links to translated pages lead to English language text

Good morning, I discovered that in the FAQ pages, links to translated pages lead to the original English language page. For instance in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Writer/nl - the link to the question Hoe kom ik van de vele regeleindes af die in mijn tekst komen als ik die in mijn document het geplakt (bijvoorbeeld een tekst uit een e-mail)? leads to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:MyLanguage/Faq/Writer/016, which translates to English. I checked it for the German pages as well, same thing happens - the link on how to enter dummy text directs to the English page, with links to translations to be sure, but that means that users who want to read the translation, have to click another time, which will also give more server load. Can this be fixed? Cheers, Floris v (talk) 2022-03-04T07:26:33 (UTC)

It only leads to the English page, if you use the English version of the wiki. If you change the language to your own, it will lead to the translated page directly. The decision to use Special:MyLanguage was made after discussing with MediaWiki contributors and mulling over it for a couple of years. I think it's the reasonable way to do it because the alternative, {{#translation:}}, result in broken links, if translations don't exist. --Beluga (talk) 2022-03-04T07:51:21 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the information, didn't know that. Floris v (talk) 2022-03-04T07:57:55 (UTC)

Translating the new chapters in the sidebar

Hello! I found the chapter in the sidebar of the Wiki 'Editing the wiki' - is not translatable. The link 'Help resources' also needs to be translatable. Thanx! --Lachend

Ok, they were missing from MediaWiki:Sidebar-messages and now I added them. Per TDF_Wiki/Multilingual#Messages_in_the_Sidebar, please send me your translations and I will add them.--Beluga (talk) 2022-06-01T05:34:10 (UTC)
Message from the system: 'This page provides interface text for the software on this wiki, and is protected to prevent abuse. To add or change translations for all wikis, please use translatewiki.net, the MediaWiki localisation project.'
Please, translate as following: "Editing the wiki" -> "Редагування вікі", "Help resources" -> "Джерела довідки" --Lachend