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    Date and Time 2014-07-14 20:30 EST/EDT (click for your time zone)
    Chair Robinson Tryon
    Started

    21:00

    Adjourned

    11:02

    Participants

    Robinson, Phil Shapiro, Algot, Immanuel, Joel

    IRC (Freenode) #libreoffice-us IRC://
    Video Chat (WebRTC)
    (Firefox unsupported)
    https://meet.jit.si/libreofficeus
    Etherpad libreoffice-us

    Prep

    • Meetings are usually videochat using WebRTC (video optional)
      • We fallback to IRC, if WebRTC is giving us problems
      • Remember: Use Chromium for WebRTC (Firefox doesn't support those functions yet)
    • We'll also try to find a permanent time so we don't need to have a poll each month
    • Remember to ping Joel/Charlie/Marketing list after we get definite date and time set


    Pre-meeting

    Dum de dum... working on new info!

    Just Phil and Me right now -- chatting in general

    • Consider using Moodle to create modules for learning about Libreoffice (Phil)
    • How do we organize and encourage people to participate? (Robinson)
      • Make a contest (Phil)
    • Another idea: We should start collecting stories about LibreOffice (Phil)
      • Like "How you started using LibreOffice" or "What I use LibreOffice to do" or "etc..."
      • Could be related to the Feedback Form (Robinson)
      • Could we crowdsource funds for contest prizes? (Phil)
        • Perhaps; want to avoid having crowdsourcing take away from general TDF funds (Joel)
    • Another idea: Get users a Linux laptop with VokoScreen (screencasting) (Phil)
      • Perhaps something that could be checked-out of the library

    Start

    Put start time and attendees list in the table

    Agenda

    IRC Minutes

    We had some major issues with WebRTC/meet.jit.si, so we used our fallback (IRC).

    Algot: Hi Phil, was hoping to see your face.
    Algot: And the faces of all.
    Phil____: yes, it's been great sharing ideas all these years, algot.


    ----> Hackfest Venue
    colonelqubit: After much searching, we have a venue for our hackfest! -- Xamarin
    jmadero: colonelqubit: not that news!
    jmadero: the bigger news

    * colonelqubit . o O (...we just bought-out Microsoft? ...)

    jmadero: lol
    jmadero: damn you Robinson
    Phil____: Linus is running for president?
    jmadero: you're too modest
    jmadero: everyone
    jmadero: colonelqubit is TDF's new employee
    Phil____: oh, that is great news.
    Algot: Congrats!
    jmadero: hopefully starting in the next 1-2 weeks he's now part of TDF on a part time basis
    colonelqubit: :-)
    jmadero: he's our new QA Engineer
    Phil____: rock on

    * colonelqubit hasn't decided if that's pronounced "Qwa" or "Kah"

    immanuel_: wow that's awesome
    jmadero: so between traveling, running US marketing, and all the other stuff - he'll be doing some automated tests, getting our new bug tracker up, organizing cool QA stuff, etc...
    immanuel_: so your first day will be at the hackfest :-)
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: that seems like a good day to start :-)
    jmadero: lol but that doesn't count for his hours ;-)
    immanuel_: we must celebrate
    jmadero: only stuff that fall in "QA Engineer" count ;-)
    jmadero: so we can drive him like a slave
    jmadero: "nothing counts, work harder!"
    Algot: Drinking soda right now in his honor.
    immanuel_: do we have a venue?

    * colonelqubit goes off to quality-test the TDF wine

    jmadero: okay we can move on colonelqubit ;-)
    colonelqubit: okay, thanks joel
    jmadero: :-D
    immanuel_: we could brew some Free Beer
    colonelqubit: So for those of who don't know joel very well, he's an extremely welcoming guy
    Phil____: i've been meaning to explore LibreOffice Presenter more
    colonelqubit: in fact, he's the reason I've stuck around so long :-)
    colonelqubit: Okay, let's get down to that agenda
    colonelqubit: Feel free to follow-along at home via Etherpad, as usual: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/libreoffice-us


    ----> Ideas about Outreach and Education
    colonelqubit: Before the meeting, Phil and I had a great chat about LibreOffice outreach and education
    colonelqubit: when I was at Texas LinuxFest I had a request from some teachers for more documentation/educational materials
    colonelqubit: Phil suggested that we look into Moodle, and perhaps hold a contest to kick-start the creation of LibreOffice modules
    colonelqubit: He also suggested that we collect 'LibreOffice stories' -- user experiences, notes on how they first started using LibreOffice, or what fun things they do with it
    Phil____: Is it okay for TDF to hold a crowdfunding project to raise money for contest awards?
    colonelqubit: Phil____: that's a question for Joel :-)
    Phil____: Someone out there has an incredible LibreOffice story. We need to hunt it down and collect the details.
    Phil____: We should maybe be inviting some of the Free Geek organization folks to our meetings, too.
    colonelqubit: We can't use TDF funds for contest awards, AFAIK, but perhaps if we had donations
    colonelqubit: Phil____: I sat down with one of the FreeGeek folks last time I was in Portland. Interesting people
    jmadero: I'll have to approach the board with such an idea. But we do have access to funds that can pay for such things
    jmadero: outside of TDF
    jmadero: my fear is holding crowdsourcing diverts money from TDF core
    jmadero: people might think "I donated for gifts, why should I donate to TDF"
    Phil____: i totally love what the Free Geeks folks are doing in Portland and in Chicago.
    jmadero: and we currently have enough funds for the immediate future for "prizes and rewards"
    Phil____: i partcipate in a Googlegroup called Refurbishers
    colonelqubit: Phil____: Unfortunately FreeGeek is moving their infra away from FOSS to Google hosted email, docs, etc..
    colonelqubit: well, at least the mothership is
    colonelqubit: I'll see them again at OSCON in a week, and I'm going to try again to see if we can get some mojo working between us
    Phil____: i was telling robinson, there is a very excellent linux screencasting program VokoScreen
    Phil____: it's from Germany. it could be used to explain LibreOffice stuff.
    Phil____: I'd love to see public libraries have a screencasting laptop they lend out with Linux, VokoScreen and LibreOffice
    Phil____: And maybe a logitech clearchat USB headset -- for best quality audio.
    immanuel_: are we on the agenda now or is this small talk and intros?
    jmadero: lol should be on agenda ;-)
    Phil____: whoops, sorry - mea cullpa.
    jmadero: colonelqubit might get out his whip soon
    jmadero: colonelqubit: if it's okay that we start with hackfest
    colonelqubit: I was going to let Phil____ riff for a while -- he's new, and has some interesting ideas
    jmadero: then move on to other topics?
    jmadero: sure - no problem
    jmadero: Phil____: we small talk all the time in #libreoffice-qa
    jmadero: lots of people to share a virtual beer/soda with
    colonelqubit: So we've chatted together
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: we'll return to your idea of promotion to local civic hacking groups after the hackfest stuff


    ----> Boston Summer Hackfest
    immanuel_: so the hackfest is the weekend next week
    colonelqubit: Indeed, indeed
    colonelqubit: Who here is going to attend?

    * colonelqubit raises his hand
    * jmadero raises hand

    immanuel_: sorry the irc didnt autoscroll
    Algot: Algot plans to be there
    immanuel_: alright, so at PorcFest, I met these two awesome guys from Maine. and they had a mobile hacking unit
    jmadero: Algot: "/me"

    * jmadero testing testing

    colonelqubit: immanuel_: go on
    immanuel_: they hacked an ambulance truck and converted it to a mobile hacking unit
    immanuel_: they had tv screens, and spare laptops, etc - they even recorded some radio talk shows
    immanuel_: anyways, i told them about the hackfest
    colonelqubit: awesome.
    immanuel_: and i think there's some people from Maine who want to come down
    immanuel_: i tried to edit the wiki page myself but the internet was really bad
    colonelqubit: jmadero: so that answers the question "What will we do if we have more people than can fit in the Xamarin space" :-)
    immanuel_: so there's a few linux clubs in ME, MA, NH and RI
    colonelqubit: Right
    colonelqubit: So the venue is a little smaller than I had hoped for
    immanuel_: and maybe VT but it's far
    jmadero: and just so I can be blunt and forward, IMHO we need to try to encourage at least 3-5 new developers to come
    colonelqubit: we're looking at maybe 12-15 people that the venue said they could host, although if more show up I'll figure out something
    jmadero: so we should try to save 3-5 spots for those

    * colonelqubit nods

    jmadero: we have one of our top developers joining, it would be great for him to have some fresh blood to introduce to our millions of lines of code :-D
    immanuel_: ok what kind of devs?
    jmadero: people who know at least a little bit of C++ and are interested in hacking at the code
    colonelqubit: I'll make a set of numbered spaces on the wiki page, and designate 5 of them for people interesting in hacking on LibreOffice

    - jphilipz has joined the room
    * colonelqubit hi-fives jphilipz

    immanuel_: ok so mainly c++ ? was there talk of some python too?
    colonelqubit: jphilipz: you coming to the Summer Hackfest?

    * jphilipz hi tens colonelqubit

    immanuel_: boston has a good python community
    jmadero: immanuel_: yeah there's some limited python
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: Indeed, indeed
    jmadero: vast majority is C++
    jmadero: then some java, some python
    jmadero: trying to purge java
    colonelqubit: we have a couple of projects in Python. Aaaaactually

    - jphilipz - jmadero - 

    jmadero: yeah we do have some for sure ;-)
    jphilipz: colonelqubit: i live in the middle east and i dont think i can get there in time by care :-)
    jmadero: and if we get 3-5 who say they prefer/only use python
    jmadero: we can tell Michael Meeks that
    jmadero: and he can try to get a task or two for the weekend
    jmadero: where at the end of the weekend we can do some PR
    immanuel_: c++ is kind of old, i don't know how to reach those
    colonelqubit: jmadero: i'm going to ping moggi about that. He had some stuff for me a while ago re: testing and such
    jmadero: about how an awesome group of new people did something cool in 48 hours
    jmadero: yeah for sure
    jmadero: maybe dig through some enhancement requests

    - jphilipz has left the room ("Leaving")

    jmadero: immanuel_: yeah c++ is old but it's versatile
    colonelqubit: So just to stay on track, we should try to make sure that we have 3-5 people who are interested in hacking in C++ on LibreOffice
    jmadero: or python ;-)
    colonelqubit: right.
    jmadero: I think we can get two days worth of python only work :-D
    colonelqubit: I'll make an action item for me
    jmadero: or even java....

    * jmadero gasps

    jmadero: mmeeks will punch me if he hears that I said that
    colonelqubit: ugggh
    colonelqubit: So let's go through the list
    colonelqubit: Venue is Xamarin
    colonelqubit: Here's teh address:
    colonelqubit: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/US_Summer_Hackfest#Venue
    colonelqubit: I think it's close to a T stop, which is convenient
    immanuel_: sorry but can you give me another example of app that uses C++ so i can try to cross-reference some meetup groups around Boston?
    colonelqubit: no idea about parking in the area, but I'll try to update that section of the event page about it
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: Blender....Gnome...linux kernel
    jmadero: immanuel_: essentially every large project
    colonelqubit: (okay, last one was j/k)
    jmadero: million lines +
    jmadero: what is linux kernel in?
    colonelqubit: C
    jmadero: lol
    jmadero: basically the same thing
    jmadero: well...
    jmadero: not really
    jmadero: ;-)
    colonelqubit: And don't try to write support scripts in bash. Tsk, tsk, tsk
    immanuel_: c# ?
    colonelqubit: Tomboy was written in that
    colonelqubit: Algot: you said that you can bring a monitor and projector?
    immanuel_: javascript %
    immanuel_: ?
    Algot: Yes, can and will.
    jmadero: are we naming all the lame programming languages?
    jmadero: :-D
    jmadero: fortran
    colonelqubit: Algot: cool, the venue might have one, but it's definitely good to have backup (or so we can set up two :-)
    Algot: Printer needed?
    jmadero: nah
    colonelqubit: I don't think we'll need a printer
    jmadero: I doubt it
    colonelqubit: I'll have my conference kit, so that means big markers and paper, if we need to make signs, etc..
    jmadero: well
    jmadero: let's think a minute
    jmadero: if we're doing marketing material
    colonelqubit: jmadero: I just realized that the conference kit is basically a larger version of what I carry in my backpack...
    jmadero: so let's actually discuss what we can do in 48 hours
    colonelqubit: jmadero: sure. Let's get through this list first, ok?
    jmadero: Algot, immanuel_ - can we introduce you to some QA stuff
    jmadero: sure, sorry
    Algot: QA OK
    jmadero: let's get through Robinson's list
    colonelqubit: I think we can definitely attract several people to the hackfest, so bodies will be fine
    jmadero: then I'll tag on what I think :-D
    colonelqubit: My biggest concern is to have programmers there
    jmadero: ditto
    jmadero: minimum 3-5, we have 1, would be really nice to have 2-3 confirmed in the next week
    colonelqubit: I'll cook up an invite email with joel tonight, and we'll send it out to the us-marketing list so you can all reuse it
    colonelqubit: (Editor's note: okay, I'll just use the IRC log instead of Etherpad...much easier :-)
    immanuel_: im updating the wiki
    colonelqubit: So, will anyone here need lodging?
    immanuel_: how many slots do we have max?
    jmadero: 15
    Algot: I will commute from home..
    jmadero: if we get over that, I mean we'll figure it out, but really the venue is for 12
    colonelqubit: Yep, I hope to draw-in a few MIT students, who can just subway over
    colonelqubit: So everyone knows, Joel is in charge of housing, so if you need a room, email him
    colonelqubit: jmadero: that good?
    jmadero: yup, the sooner the better
    jmadero: I'm aiming for within a couple miles of the venue
    jmadero: else, near subway
    jmadero: 2 to a room to save some money
    immanuel_: Robinson, i want to start drafting some invitations for python groups in new england - what time should they arrive on Friday evening? what time do we get the room i mean
    jmadero: so currently I see the need for 2 rooms
    immanuel_: i can stay at the hostel :-)
    jmadero: immanuel_: hostel's are okay but not as safe
    immanuel_: lifetime member :-)
    jmadero: I mean we'll pay for a hostel
    jmadero: but we'll have a hotel if you want to bunk with us
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: So the plan is to have the room(s) on Saturday and Sunday
    jmadero: we'll likely be out late ;-)
    jmadero: well Friday night through Sunday afternoon yes?
    jmadero: I land at....like 6pm on Friday
    colonelqubit: Sorry, Sat/Sunday is when we'll have the Venue Rooms
    colonelqubit: hotel we'll have Friday -> Sunday
    immanuel_: i would want to leave no later than 2pm Sunday
    immanuel_: it's a 6 hours drive for me
    jmadero: immanuel_: yeah no worries
    jmadero: I'm leaving also around then
    jmadero: I have a 7 hour flight
    immanuel_: and i wake up at crazy hours 5am
    jmadero: :-D
    jmadero: we can put you to work early
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: regarding invite notes, let me chat with joel about the wording
    immanuel_: i'll be there on Friday around 9pm if im lucky but i think people should get there around 6pm if there's someone to welcome them
    immanuel_: ok colonelqubit
    jmadero: I think colonelqubit will be first one there
    jmadero: anyone there can head out to grab some food
    colonelqubit: because we already have....7 people signed up, my suggestion would be for us to focus on the Boston area
    jmadero: just a heads up, TDF will pay for some but not all stuff
    jmadero: Friday night dinner out likely on the person attending
    jmadero: I'll have to verify that
    colonelqubit: Yes, I'll be taking a redeye in from OSCON, arriving Friday morning
    jmadero: Sat. breakfast, lunch, dinner on TDF
    jmadero: plus hotel on TDF
    colonelqubit: Sun breakfast/lunch, too, I believe
    jmadero: yes
    jmadero: ;-)
    Algot: Will truck in the projector etc. Sat AM
    jmadero: sounds good, Friday night will likely be just chit chat
    jmadero: since officially it starts Sat. morning
    colonelqubit: Just to touch back on attendance, because we have size limitations, I'd suggest that we focus on people in the Boston area
    jmadero: sure - if we can get the people from the area it would be best
    colonelqubit: I'm really hopeful that we'll be full-up, and maybe even a bit bursting at the seams, and can make a good case for having a larger event in 2015

    * colonelqubit is totally learning how to run these things as he goes

    jmadero: immanuel_: when you're reaching out, say limited seating, but maybe sign up somewhere and we'll keep them in the loop about future events
    jmadero: which we hope to do 1 per quarter in the US
    jmadero: at least 1-2 in the North East
    colonelqubit: Having a hackfest around the time of a conference can be a really good idea. I was thinking about running a mini-hackfest around libreplanet 2015 (usually in March)
    colonelqubit: that's the FSF's annual conference in boston
    immanuel_: im not sure if we should mixup libreplanet with hackfest
    immanuel_: more like Free Document Day
    jmadero: let's deal with that as it gets closer ;-)
    jmadero: first is to nail this one down
    colonelqubit: Indeed
    immanuel_: there's half-dozen python groups
    jmadero: ideally 15 people, 5 devs, lots of talk about marketing, QA, and development
    jmadero: free food and cool people
    colonelqubit: As joel pointed out, ignore the current schedule -- we'll start later than 8am, don't worry :-P
    jmadero: that's our selling point ;-)
    jmadero: plus perhaps the largest open source project on the planet (don't quote me on that)
    colonelqubit: That's about it. Oh -- if you have specific food requirements, please list them on the wiki page by your name
    immanuel_: good food good people good times
    colonelqubit: jmadero: I'm going to turn that thing into a table...

     colonelqubit: ACTION: Turn attendee list into a table w/name, t-shirt size, dietary requirements, etc..

    jmadero: no let's hide dietary
    jmadero: else I'll have an impossible menu
    colonelqubit: okay, fine
    jmadero: "only fish" "no fish" "20% fish" "only lobster"
    jmadero: ;-)
    colonelqubit: SPAM SPAM eggs and SPAM
    jmadero: haha
    jmadero: I probably will be pickiest eater


    Hackfest: T-shirt
    colonelqubit: Okay, now it's that time you've been waiting for: T-shirts!
    colonelqubit: we have two marvelous t-shirt designs
    immanuel_: we should invite students from Boston university too, they have a LUG
    colonelqubit: but only one can win
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: Boston uni students would be great -- do you know someone in the lug?
    colonelqubit: I vaguely remember talking to someone (I'll have to check my mail archives)
    colonelqubit: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/US_Summer_Hackfest/T-shirt
    colonelqubit: Everyone gets to cast a vote -- which one do you like?
    colonelqubit: P.S. you can click on the shirt images to get a large picture
    jmadero: walrus for me ;-)
    Algot: Walrus
    colonelqubit: Phil____, immanuel_ ?
    immanuel_: im still scouting
    immanuel_: we need to be here: http://www.bugc.org/
    immanuel_: this is all the events in Boston
    colonelqubit: oh, cool -- that's like the calgator
    colonelqubit: (Portland, OR calendar aggregator thingy)
    jmadero: immanuel_: we have an event wiki - goal would be to add every event to our wiki
    jmadero: and keep it up to date annually, then we pick and choose where to go
    jmadero: ideally we have a group in every region that can go for cheap
    jmadero: vs. me flying from CA to the east coast ;-)
    jmadero: not to say I won't enjoy it, just costly
    immanuel_: Boston LUG has their annual BBQ on Saturday, but they could come Sunday morning
    jmadero: so it's this core group's "job" to build these local communities
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: that would be great
    immanuel_: PyLadies have their meeting on Sunday, but they could come on Saturday
    jmadero: if they are devs, let's try to get them a build before they come
    immanuel_: we just need to know how to market ourservels
    jmadero: so they can start right up with the fun stuff
    colonelqubit: jmadero: so do you think we should add the hackfest to the Bugc thing, or?
    colonelqubit: I'm just thinking that the spots are limited...
    jmadero: sure, if we can be clear that it's first come first serve :-)
    jmadero: yes
    jmadero: if we can't be clear about that, then no
    jmadero: I'd hate to have 30 show up
    colonelqubit: I want to wait until we have a bigger venue
    jmadero: and be like "um....sorry"
    jmadero: sure
    jmadero: we basically have 8-11 spots open
    jmadero: hopefully 4-5 for devs
    jmadero: so we have 3-5 for "other" meaning marketing, documentation, translation, design, QA
    immanuel_: I have a Boston University LUG contact
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: awesome
    colonelqubit: I'll get you a note about inviting people, with a strong emphasis on programmers (at least for this event)

    - Phil____ has disconnected (Quit: Page closed)

    colonelqubit: jmadero: remind me to hack on that with you right after this meeting
    immanuel_: i'll start making a list of people to email
    colonelqubit: Okay, so back to the agenda: T-shirt?
    jmadero: colonelqubit: sounds good, I have until 7:45ish
    immanuel_: i don't have a immanuel@libreoffice address so do you want me to be sending the invites?
    jmadero: immanuel_: yeah you can, no problems there
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: yeah, that's totally fine
    jmadero: immanuel_: are you a member of TDF?
    immanuel_: re t-shirts, i like the green one
    colonelqubit: Okay, so WALRUS it is

     T-shirt chosen: 'Hacking for software independence'/Walrus design (Robinson)
    

    immanuel_: jmadero: im not a member, ive been trying for over a year but i dont know how
    immanuel_: i need two sponsors or whatever
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: joel and I will walk you through the process at the hackfest!
    jmadero: immanuel_: https://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/application-for-tdf-community-membership/
    jmadero: :-D

     colonelqubit: ACTION: Help immanuel apply for TDF membership at the hackfest (Joel, Robinson)

    jmadero: you can use myself and Qubit as references
    immanuel_: :-)
    immanuel_: well I have Sophie as a reference too
    colonelqubit: Quick semi-scientific poll for t-shirt sizes: What do you guys wear?
    jmadero: good, you're set then
    jmadero: god I hate this
    colonelqubit: Size Large
    jmadero: flip a coin
    jmadero: let me check my other one
    Algot: 3xl
    immanuel_: hmm i dont know like M or L depends on the fabric
    jmadero: the other one was a bit tight
    colonelqubit: jmadero: the green one, or the milan one?
    colonelqubit: (the europe shirts are noticeably smaller)
    jmadero: both were a bit tight actually
    jmadero: maybe let's go....medium
    jmadero: let's get about 5 more than we need
    jmadero: 2 mediums, 3 larges extra
    colonelqubit: Okay, so we have {M, M/L, L, 3XL}
    jmadero: maybe 2, 2, 1
    jmadero: or 1,2,2,1?
    jmadero: I dunno
    jmadero: extras
    colonelqubit: yeah, I'll get a few extras. I need to send a couple of shirts to the folks who helped out at the booth at TXLF too, so if we need those shirts, then I can send them shirts from the next batch of 'regular' shirts I make up
    jmadero: maybe 10 extras then
    jmadero: we'll have the funds
    colonelqubit: Yeah, shirts should hopefully be a couple hundred. A little more for 3-color
    colonelqubit: Cool. Shirts done
    colonelqubit: That's all I have for the hackfest -- anyone else?
    Algot: Not from me


    Logo use
    immanuel_: colonelqubit: check it out LibreOffice logo found here http://www.millermicro.com/FOSSUserGroupNatick.html
    immanuel_: scroll down
    jmadero: so for tentative schedule, just quick brainstorm, I'll go first
    jmadero: ;-)
    jmadero: morning around 9ish breakfast and mingling
    jmadero: I'd like to do an overview of the project
    jmadero: a quick "what are all the teams"
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: yeah, nice!
    jmadero: kind of to say "anything helps"
    jmadero: anyone can help*
    jmadero: introductions of our team along with Michael
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: (technically, they should probably be using the one w/o the 'TDF' sub-title, but I'm not going to bug joel about such things right now)
    jmadero: ....dammit
    jmadero: lol
    immanuel_: lol
    jmadero: but - I very much doubt anyone on the board would throw a fit about that
    jmadero: anyways
    jmadero: I'd like to do a bit more in depth about QA
    immanuel_: ok 9am breakfast
    jmadero: since that's Robinson's and my area
    jmadero: well Robinson is everywhere
    jmadero: but my area mostly
    colonelqubit: Yep
    Algot: I'll contact Dick Miller abt logo. I'm in that group.
    jmadero: he can email me
    jmadero: and I can get a quick +1 from the board
    jmadero: I'd like to half a round table about the struggles and ideas for penetrating US market
    jmadero: since it's a lot harder than Europe
    jmadero: for that it'd be great to have Charlie on a video line
    jmadero: then I'd like to do a few hours of work
    jmadero: with lunch
    jmadero: devs can hack
    jmadero: we can do other stuff - I'll likely be triaging and bibisecting
    jmadero: oh yeah I'll do a quick bibisect tutorial
    jmadero: those are essentially my ideas :-D others welcome
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: logo w/o subline is here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Logos
    jmadero: I'm hoping to convince a few people to help out with QA, even with our team growing
    colonelqubit: That sounds good
    jmadero: we're hardly staying afloat
    jmadero: ~220 bugs reported a week
    jmadero: oh also just a general talk about what you all think our weaknesses are
    jmadero: if there are general areas where we are "falling behind"
    colonelqubit: So I think that Michael will take the programmer types over to hack on C++ and python for most of the time
    jmadero: yeah I think so also
    jmadero: I figure that'll be 10+ hours over the 2 days
    jmadero: if there are 5 of them, they can get something cool done with that kind of time
    colonelqubit: For everyone else, I think that it would be good to give them (as you said) an intro to some of our teams
    colonelqubit: then we can ask them what they're interested in doing
    jmadero: yeah for sure
    jmadero: and any experience they have
    jmadero: (fine if you have none, I had 0 when I joined)
    jmadero: now I have like 0.01% experience
    jmadero: and pretend like I'm an expert
    colonelqubit: I have specific logo needs, for example, so if they just want to jump in and start making shit up, then that's +1000 from me
    Algot: "Fake it 'till you make it."
    jmadero: basically
    jmadero: that's my life ;-)
    colonelqubit: that's basically every awesome artist I know
    jmadero: so other ideas - please add to wiki
    colonelqubit: some of them went from 'fake' to 'master' in about 3rd grade, but.... :-)
    jmadero: oh yeah - compiling a 1-3 year todo list
    jmadero: would be cool
    colonelqubit: put your ideas under https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/US_Summer_Hackfest#Activities
    colonelqubit: jmadero: 1-3 year roadmap?
    jmadero: for the US - can be very broad
    jmadero: like "compile a list of events in the US and try to attend at least 4 per year"
    jmadero: "next year have at least 2 hackfests, followed by 4 the next year"
    colonelqubit: yeah, that would be good
    colonelqubit: redmine might be able to help
    colonelqubit: jmadero: did you want to do that AT the hackfest, or?
    jmadero: I think at least a roundtable quick talk
    jmadero: since the next in person could be 6-7 months away
    colonelqubit: roadmap quick talk?
    colonelqubit: Yeah, sounds good
    jmadero: yeah
    colonelqubit: we can definitely do that as a part of the Outreach/Marketing stuff
    colonelqubit: which I'm supposed to talk about in Bern...
    jmadero: ;-)

    * colonelqubit is confused about what talks he's giving... there are  a feewww

    colonelqubit: one of them is with this horrible guy. can't stand him
    jmadero: haha

    * Algot Early morning catching up to me...

    colonelqubit: it's okay, I'll get him to write the whole talk. that's what board members do, I think

    * Algot Early morning again tomorrow.

    jmadero: okay I think I'm done
    jmadero: and we have a general idea - please put ideas and what not on the wiki
    immanuel_: so according to the wiki, there's 7 of us confirmed /15 and we want 3-5 devs/8 remaining spots ?
    jmadero: so 3-5 devs, 8-#newdevs for other spots
    immanuel_: ?
    colonelqubit: #newdevs?
    jmadero: # of new devs
    colonelqubit: (8 - #of-new-devs)
    jmadero: so if we get 3 new devs, we'd have 5 other spots
    jmadero: okay for me, Algot have a great night
    immanuel_: could they connect remotely? will there be stuff to be done if they're not in person?
    jmadero: thanks for contributing
    jmadero: looking forward to working with you
    jmadero: immanuel_: yeah we can manage that
    immanuel_: i wish we could broadcast US-wide
    colonelqubit: Algot: if we have some attendees interested in inkscape, perhaps you could give them an intro?
    colonelqubit: Get them working on some materials for outreach?
    jmadero: well.....I use google hangout, if others are using it, we can do a public room
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: sooooon, soooon :-)
    Algot: Can do a cheap Inkscape intro.
    jmadero: that means at least 9 videos
    colonelqubit: ?
    jmadero: I'll setup my system with google hangout - so if people want to connect via video
    jmadero: and are okay using google
    colonelqubit: ah, okay, I see
    jmadero: Michael can surely so something with people remotely
    colonelqubit: SWAG
    jmadero: and Moggi will be available on IRC
    jmadero: as might Kohei


    ----> Swag: Brochures and Stickers
    colonelqubit: just a quick update for everyone -- I've printed some Community brochures and some i-heart-libreoffice and i-heart-open-formats/DLP stickers
    jmadero: +1
    jmadero: immanuel_: and from QA side, I've helped train at least 5-10 people with QA stuff via IRC
    jmadero: and QA includes some dev stuff
    jmadero: Reisi might be on part of the time to try to get a developer or two to help him with Bibisect GUI
    colonelqubit: assuming that the printers get them to me properly, i'll be bringing them to the hackfest and we can send everyone home with a T-shirt, some brochures, and stickers to hand out at their LUG, to their friends, etc...
    jmadero: awesome
    colonelqubit: Right now the Design team is really small, and we've been having some problems finding enough time to prep and update our printed materials
    immanuel_: only reason im asking is because this is our first and only event in North America in 2014
    jmadero: immanuel_: sure, we can manage, get them in this IRC room
    immanuel_: so there might be people from all over the place who can't hop on a plane on 1 week notice to be there and we only have 8 spots available
    jmadero: we'll have links to google hangout
    colonelqubit: So one of my goals for the hackfest is to see if we can find some people who can really help us revamp our brochures and stickers, ec..
    jmadero: and we can arrange something
    jmadero: colonelqubit: yeah, artists are needed
    jmadero: our design and marketing teams need help
    jmadero: as does QA, and developers ;-)
    immanuel_: jmadero: awesome
    jmadero: for millions of lines of code, it's amazing how small our teams are

    ----> Recap of OSB/TXLF
    colonelqubit: Oh, and I said last time that I'd give a recap of Open Source Bridge.
    colonelqubit: So quickly -- so you all can go -- I went to Texas Linux Fest and then to Open Source Bridge (Portland)
    colonelqubit: I've had further contact with a couple people who were at TXLF, and Austin definitely is a strong location for a hackfest in 2015
    colonelqubit: Because our venue might be a hackspace, we could probably have a lot more than 15 people
    jmadero: :-D, so let's say our potential is 320 million people
    jmadero: find us a venue
    colonelqubit: heh
    colonelqubit: Texas is a nice place, and the BBQ is totally awesome
    jmadero: ...rub it in my face
    jmadero: asshole
    jmadero: I doubt they'll accomodate my needs
    colonelqubit: during TXLF, Austin hosted some kind of biker week
    colonelqubit: and they shut down a big street, and there were Harley's outside every hotel... Hampton Inn, Hilton, you name it
    colonelqubit: interested juxtaposition
    colonelqubit: Open Source Bridge is a very different conference.

    * Algot Going...
    * colonelqubit waves

    colonelqubit: Lots of people who aren't programmers, but a number of very skilled programmers as well

    * Algot ...going...

    jmadero: take it easy Algot
    jmadero: see you in 2 weeks

    - Algot has left the room ("Gone")

    colonelqubit: lots of opportunities for people to hold side-chats, and lots of people talking about various issues with FOSS, including
    jmadero: what happened to Phil?
    colonelqubit: jmadero: he left... perhaps got tired, too :-)
    jmadero: :-D
    colonelqubit: * Organization of projects

    • Inclusivity
    • Community mangement

    jmadero: niiice
    colonelqubit: Also, a totally sweet talk about fire-fighting (like, literal forest fire-fighting) during the unconference
    colonelqubit: the tl;dr there was: Sometimes...much of the time... you just have to let the fire burn

    - rkazak has joined the room

    colonelqubit: Anyhow, I met a number of interesting people from various orgs, including Internet Archive and Mozilla
    jmadero: yeah I can iimagine
    jmadero: we have some nasty fires here
    jmadero: awesome, it's good for us to be networking
    colonelqubit: I hope to chat with those people further about some of their tools that we're using, plus what new tools they have that WE can use
    jmadero: awesome
    jmadero: colonelqubit: okay should we have our other discussion before my dinner is ready
    colonelqubit: For example, it's really easy for us to throw all of our LibreOffice talk videos up [on Archive.org]
    jmadero: Bhavani is making us a mexican feast :-D
    rkazak: Yea, why re-invent the wheel…
    colonelqubit: awesome. We always have mexican food for x-mas dinner
    jmadero: ah, we do Chinese for xmas eve

    * colonelqubit thinks it must be something to do w/my parents being from so-cal...

    jmadero: actually we shifted a couple years ago to Mediterranean
    jmadero: and tried a tofurkey last Thanksgiving
    jmadero: horrible idea
    immanuel_: it's getting late
    jmadero: immanuel_: yeah :-)
    colonelqubit: yep
    jmadero: I think we're done
    colonelqubit: Okay, that's all from me


    ----> Invite note
    jmadero: colonelqubit: but you wanted to talk to me about one more thing?
    colonelqubit: Work your contacts. Talk to people about the event, and get excited
    jmadero: yup yup - immanuel_ keep me in the loop with #'s
    jmadero: and anyone who needs a hotel
    colonelqubit: 2 days of hell. I mean, 2 days of awesome
    colonelqubit: jmadero: yep, let's chat about invites

    * colonelqubit points over to the Etherpaaad

    immanuel_: colonelqubit: can you touch base with me when you're done, just send me a text message to let me know when you can send me the invite outline, and i'll post it on a dozen meetups for groups in northeast
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: yep, will do :-)
    jmadero: colonelqubit: link to ether
    jmadero: I'll bookmark this time
    jmadero: promise

     colonelqubit: ACTION: Text immanuel when invite is done (Robinson)

    colonelqubit: jmadero: http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/libreoffice-us
    immanuel_: we might get lucky and find those 3-5 c++/python/java devs
    jmadero: it seems like it's possible
    colonelqubit: (3 - 5) = -2
    immanuel_: text so i know to check my emails because Robinson's emails never end up in my inbox :-(
    immanuel_: good night
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: do they end up in spam?
    jmadero: night immanuel_

    * colonelqubit sighs

    immanuel_: also to let me know about the t-shirts, you wanted me to pick them up
    immanuel_: and i'll let you know if i have somewhere to stay but unlikely as i realized it's an hour out of Boston, so not practical
    jmadero: immanuel_: no worries, we have the funds
    jmadero: they're approved and we're way under budget
    jmadero: so long as you'll share a room;-)
    immanuel_: gmail is messed up because all my email about open source stuff get tagged OPEN and don't go to my inbox
    immanuel_: ok im out
    immanuel_: colonelqubit: you have my # if you need to talk voice
    colonelqubit: immanuel_: Yeah, I'll confirm with them once they're printed. It's Big Green T's in Lebanon -- so not West Leb where we ate at Yama's, but the other side of Lebanon
    immanuel_: the other side of Lebanon, lol, ok just send the zipcode :-)
    immanuel_: bye

    - immanuel_ has disconnected (Quit: Page closed)

    jmadero: so colonelqubit the points I'd say - limited space, huge international project, open source, friendly people, great for learning how to cooperate/team building, etc..., lots of projects, all different types of skills appreciated
    jmadero: this is a hackfest/community get together
    jmadero: point to the wiki and say "first to sign up get the slots"
    jmadero: sorry dinner is nearly done ;-)
    jmadero: colonelqubit: if you want I can write up some text tonight/tomorrow
    jmadero: and shoot it your way
    colonelqubit: jmadero: yeah, I'll start to stub-in some stuff, then maybe you can read over it after dinner?
    colonelqubit: We'll want to get the wiki page all cleaned up before we point people at it

    * colonelqubit is going to go get some food, too

    colonelqubit: Okay, done at roughly 10:30
    jmadero: colonelqubit: sounds perfect, I'll await an email (or should I check etherpad)?
    jmadero: and I will checkout the wiki tomorrow after work
    jmadero: Bhavani is out tomorrow night so I'll be glued to the screen
    jmadero: okay off for dinner

    * jmadero waves
    - jmadero is now known as fooding


    Welcome

    • How is everyone?
    • Introductions
    • Immanuel wants to add to the agenda: 'Promotion to "local civic hacking groups" and "local Linux clubs" '
      • Touched-on briefly at June 25 Meeting (Perhaps Immanuel can say more in next call)

    Completed Action Items

    Outstanding Action Items

    • ACTION: Robinson will ask Design Team for help w/icons for TDF, LO, and DLP (including guidelines)
      • Asked for help; only heard back from K-J
    • ACTION: Algot/Robinson will refresh our existing designs and the DFD "open standards" leaflet in preparation for printing
      • TODO: Check-in w/Algot (Inkscape/SVG troubles)

    File:Lo-document-freedom.pdf draft remake of DocumentFreedomDay flier. Lo-document-freedom-draft.svg Editable SVG (Inkscape)

    • ACTION: Check with local librarians abt. LO on computers (For all to do).
      • April 18 - Checked w/a couple Librarians. They didn't even know about it -- gave them pamphlet and stickers. (Robinson)
      • TODO: Move this ACTION item to a general methods of outreach list/wiki page.

    Newcomers

    • We have a state-by-state roster of our team members
      • Please add your name/contact info so we can get in touch
      • Having local contacts makes outreach possible
    • No newcomers

    Infrastructure

    • ACTION: Robinson and Morgan will set up Facebook and G+ accounts for LibreOffice US Community
      • June 25 - Touched-base w/Morgan. Will work more on Facebook in coming days
    • ACTION: Morgan will take point on social media presence/alerts
      • After setting-up, go to user list to build-up a presence
    • What's new since last month?

    Swag

    • Current status
    • [1/2] Shirts -> Immanuel for PorcFest

    Sample Talks/Videos

    • ACTION: Immanuel/Robinson (w/help from Italo/Charles) will prepare basic talks (Slides, Talking points) and a couple of example videos
      • These will be helpful for people doing outreach, giving short talks, etc.
    • ACTION: Charlie will proof/review these talks/materials


    Events Box

    • ACTION: Joel/Robinson will assemble the parts for v1.0 of the US Events Box
    • PENS
    • T-SHIRTS
    • STICKERS
      • DLP - Working on sticker design
      • LibreOffice - Need to resize sticker design
    • TV/PROJECTOR:
    • Will check out projectors @ Best Buy as an in-person test (Robinson)

    Reference:

    Events

    • ACTION: Round-up contact info from educators and get them in touch with Charlie (Robinson)
    • ACTION: Joel will check w/Mmeeks re: tutorials and other pieces for introductory marketing/outreach
    • Recap of Open Source Bridge (Robinson)
    • Possible Hackfests
      • Seattle, WA - After SeaGL in October 2014 (Some developer interest)
      • Austin, TX - Possibly spring of 2015 (Interested sponsors and venue)
      • Portland, OR - Sometime in 2015 (LinuxFund.org sponsoring CLS this year -- perhaps hackfest in 2015?)
    • Event calendar for the US/Help with upcoming events:
      • OSCON 2014 (Portland, OR) - July 20-24 (Sun-Thu) - Have 4 helpers lined-up!
      • US Summer Hackfest (Boston, MA) - July 26-27 (Sat-Sun) -
      • http://fosscon.org/ FOSSCON Philadelphia, PA Saturday, August 9th, 2014 at the Franklin Institute - 222 N 20th St, Philadelphia, PA 19103 -
      • Fossetcon (Orlando, FL) - September 11-13 (Thu-Sat) - Could use a couple helpers!
      • All Things Open http://www.allthingsopen.org/ Raleigh, NC - Oct 22 and 23
      • SeaGL (Seattle, WA) - October 24-25 (Fri-Sat) -- Could use a couple helpers!

    US Summer Hackfest

    This will be our primary US event for the year...

    • ACTION: Robinson/Immanuel/Morgan will work on securing venue (MIT Stata preferred?) before June 25 meeting
      • SIPB contacted. Some interest, but nobody stepping up to be the SIPB member in charge;
        • Because of summer/term change time, they're concerned about low student turnout.
        • Got a suggestion re; some other MIT groups
    • ACTION: Joel/Robinson/chicken - Arrange for t-shirts for US Summer Hackfest
      • June 23 - Have two good designs now. Still interest in contest? (Robinson)
      • Hold contest for t-shirt design? Winner gets something special (t-shirt?) (giftcard?)
      • Estimate: $290 for 25 single-color; $370 for 25 2-color
      • If we order ~100, could be ~$9/shirt
    • ACTION: Joel will arrange contest for T-shirt design
    • We have a venue! We'll be at Xamarin
    • ACTION: Set up 5 designated spaces at the hackfest for people who want to learn how to hack on LibreOffice (C++ and/or Python) (Robinson)

    End

    • Recruitment and Growth: Buddy-system: Who are you going to bring to the meeting next time?
    • Recap of lunch with Phil Shapiro (Charlie)
    • Closing thoughts

    Announcements

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