QA/Meetings/2014/February 10
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| Meeting of the QA Team | |
| Date and Time (UTC) | 2014-02-10 19:30 UTC | 
| G+ Hangout | [ This Meeting] | 
| Chair | Robinson Tryon | 
| Secretary | Robinson Tryon | 
| Started | 
 19:37  | 
| Adjourned | 
 20:35  | 
| Participants | 
 Robinson, Dali, Sophie, Joel  | 
| Pad | http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/qa | 
| Talkyoo Room Number | 537138 | 
Prep
Agenda + Minutes
Minutes:
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Before we Start
A few minutes before we officially start the call, we'll try to have a few people on hand to help assist newbies set up their teleconferencing gear, get things muted, and log on to all of our communication channels:
Start
Put start time and attendees list in the table
The State of QA
Including any Opening Discussion
- T-shirts update:
- Kiva Cards?
 - More T-shirts delivered to:
 - Still en-route to:
- Hackert, Mandal
 
 
 
- Any update on possible Hackfest in the US (School in Pennsylvania) ?
 
- Consider rethinking QA Meeting time (Joel)
- It's too late for Florian R.
 - ACTION: Joel will set up a doodle for a new QA Meeting time
 
 
- Kiva cards sent
- Will send out blurb once I check with Italo/Marketing (Robinson)
 
 - Possible Bug Hunting event for 4.2.2 ? (Sophie)
- 4.2.2 will be in RC in about a month
 
 - Pennsylvania Hackfest: Update?
- Tentatively in April
 - Question about how many students we could get pre-registered (Joel)
 - What about partnering with OpenHatch?
 
 - Hackfests can give us multiple things:
- Possible new contributors
 - GSoC interest
 - New contributors (in QA, Documentation, etc...)
 - Awareness of FOSS in high schools and university campuses
 - Awareness of LibreOffice in particular (good place for expanded use of LO)
 - ACTION: Joel will respond to planning email and help shape what we can/want to do
 - ACTION: Robinson will check-in with OpenHatch/Deb Nichols to investigate partnership
 
 - California has a lot of schools in close proximity, so might be a good place for us to plan a multi-school trip (Joel)
 
UNCONFIRMED Bugs
- January 27th: 774
 - Today (10th): 874
 - Difference: +100
 
- Numbers climbing up -- what can we do to keep these numbers down? (Robinson)
 - Some positive interest from NA users (Joel)
- Make sure to have at least one of the experienced users in the chat room as much as possible
 
 - There are a number of duplicates that need to be consolidated (Sophie)
 
Topics for ESC?
Does anyone have any topics/concerns that I should bring to the Engineering Steering Committee (ESC)? (Robinson)
Need_Advice Bugs
I'm going to bring up the following bugs:
- (Perhaps more a11y bugs?)
 
- NeedAdvice list doing well (a bit shorter)
 
Pending Items
PENDING ITEM: MozTrap Localization
- ACTION: MozTrap translation (GUI and tests) continues to be high-priority for QA (Needs someone to shepherd)
 
To review:
- Other project who might want to work on translating GUI w/us?
 
- Had interest from Mozilla coordinator at FOSDEM to join us (Robinson)
 
PENDING ITEM: Bugzilla Migration etc.
- ACTION: Robinson will work on a new lobster mascot for our Bugzilla
 - ACTION: Robinson/Cloph will talk to Tollef about next steps in Bugzilla migration
- Waiting to hear back from Tollef
 
 - ACTION: Joel/Alex working to give Robinson a VM in which to test Bugzilla ourselves
- This will speed-up the 2nd half of migration and after-migration tasks
 
 
Older:
- ACTION: Get Tollef to activate voting on FDO (merged item)
 - ACTION: Get Tollef to add BOLD statement to each FDO mail sent out to not reply via mail (merged item)
 - ACTION: Get Tollef to clarify 'version' label in Bugzilla (merged item)
 - ACTION: Will track the filed bug and wait to hear updates (re: Bold statement on FDO mail)
 
- Owen made up a great lobster mascot -- will unveil it once we have our instance up and running (Robinson)
 - Will feel better if we can slowly work on our side in a VM (Joel)
- Should have a VM up by end of February for testing
 
 - PSA: Now that we have Redmine up and running, the official position is to send infrastructure bugs there
- (but FDO WWW subcomponent is still available for now)
 
 
PENDING ITEM: Bibisect Repositories
- ACTION: Make combined bibisect repo available for testing (Robinson) + Provide better docs
 - ACTION: Provide documentation for mac bibisect on wiki (Robinson)
 
To review:
- Robinson working on bibisect docs
 
- IDEA: Add bibisect into regular Developer workflow
 - IDEA: Create graph/tool to show which builds contain a given commit
 
- punt
 
PENDING ITEM: GUI for Bibisect
- ACTION: Punt on implementation until after we have bibisect repos up and running (All)
- Florian is working on a Windows-only version
 
 
- Florian pushed-out a beta release ... (Joel)
 - ACTION: Joel will ask people to test the Windows Bibisect GUI
 
PENDING ITEM: Feedback pages
- ACTION: Sophie will shepherd native-lang versions of Feedback page
 - [DONE] ACTION: Robinson will ping chs/website list to make sure the feedback page is styled per the site redesign
- Feb 01 - Pinged chs/website list that the newdesign Feeback page still doesn't pass url params
 - Feb xx - Filed a bug in Redmine
 
 
To review:
- Feedback page in new mockup
 - NL versions (bug #?)
 
- We'll work on translations once the website redesign is put into production (Sophie)
 
PENDING ITEM: EOL, Release series, and Stable versions
- ACTION: We'll wait and see if the Fresh vs. Stable (esque) language ends up in the updater (Robinson)
 
- Wait and see how the website redesign presents the Fresh vs. Stable version, too
 
PENDING ITEM: QA Input into website redesign
- ACTION: Sophie/Robinson - Keep QA in the loop re: updates to QA pages
 
Website Redesign:
- New website will be out very soon (Robinson)
 - Sophie will get us an update in the next few days
 
PENDING ITEM: Start Center and Sidebar Concerns
- ACTION: Robinson will get an update on the latest progress here from Stuart/a11y Team
- Feb 1 - Emailed
 
 - ACTION: If you try to use LibreOffice without a mouse (and using a screen reader), how is the experience? (Everyone)
 
Relevant tracker bugs:
- Will ping again
 - There's been a lot of discussion re: the sidebar (is it redundant?) (Joel)
 
PENDING ITEM: Introduction video to LibreOffice QA
- ACTION: Mock something up/have something to show at a future QA Meeting (Robinson, Joren)
 
- Delayed (FOSDEM :-)
 
PENDING ITEM: Planning Regular QA Events
- ACTION: Joel will come up with a timeframe for future Bug Hunting Sessions/Triage Contests, with rationale.
- Let's try to have an event every 6 months
 
 
- Possibly something with 4.2.2
- Sophie will organize it for Week 11
 
 
PENDING ITEM: Daily builds for all platforms
- ACTION: Robinson will take point on making sure we get daily builds for win/mac/linux
 - ACTION: Write a script to make sure builds are being produced daily! (Robinson)
 
- Will touch base with Cloph again
 - Mac builds of master are down today (Sophie)
 
Long-term/Frozen Pending Items
These are long-term or frozen items (i.e. on ice until something else happens) that we don't want to forget about...
PENDING ITEM: Update the whiteboard/keywords page
- ACTION: Joel will turn this into an EasyHack and work on it (slowly)
- tdf#71761 - Cleanup Whiteboard Wiki Page
 
 
PENDING ITEM: Most Annoying Bug List
- ACTION: Joel will propose stricter guidelines for what qualifies as a MAB
 
To review:
- How is the test going? (using the 'Priority' field in Bugzilla)
 
References:
MAB Tool- Server/service down for now
- Things are going well (Sophie)
- List is still growing a bit
- Perhaps clarify exactly what criteria to be a MAB? (Robinson)
 
 
 - List is still growing a bit
 
PENDING ITEM: What to do with FDO bugs filed against Extensions, Templates
- ACTION: Joel will continue to monitor the situation
 
PENDING ITEM: Talk to CS Department/others at University
- ACTION: Put up a message on the message board at his University and see who is interested (Joel)
 
PENDING ITEM: Hackfests
- ACTION: USA involvement in hackfests -- (Keep on the agenda, discuss on QA list) (All)
 
New Action Items
All items proposed between meetings go here
NEW ITEM: Title (Author)
New Items (Proposed/Discussed at the Meeting)
NEW ITEM: Title (Author)
Announcements
- ANNOUNCEMENT: Our next meeting will take place... February 24th (Monday) at 19:30 UTC, unless otherwise noted on the QA/Mailing List.
 
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