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Meeting of the QA Team

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Date and Time (UTC) 2014-03-10 19:30 UTC
G+ Hangout [ This Meeting]
Chair Robinson Tryon
Secretary Robinson Tryon
Talkyoo Room Number 537138


Agenda + Minutes


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Before we Start

A few minutes before we officially start the call, we'll try to have a few people on hand to help assist newbies set up their teleconferencing gear, get things muted, and log on to all of our communication channels:


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The State of QA

Including any Opening Discussion

  • T-shirts update:
    • Kiva Cards?
    • More T-shirts delivered to:
    • Still en-route to:
      • Hackert, Mandal
  • New Meeting Time?
    • ACTION: Joel will set up a doodle for a new QA Meeting time


UNCONFIRMED bug count:

  • February 24th: 956
  • Today (10th):
  • Difference:

Topics for ESC?

Does anyone have any topics/concerns that I should bring to the Engineering Steering Committee (ESC)? (Robinson)

Need_Advice Bugs

Need_Advice bugs

Pending Items

PENDING ITEM: MozTrap Localization

  • ACTION: MozTrap translation (GUI and tests) continues to be high-priority for QA (Needs someone to shepherd)

To review:

    • Other project who might want to work on translating GUI w/us?

PENDING ITEM: Bugzilla Migration etc.

  • ACTION: Robinson/Cloph will talk to Tollef about next steps in Bugzilla migration
    • Feb 24 - I'll try to ping Tollef again (cultivate communcation) (Robinson)
  • ACTION: Joel/Alex working to give Robinson a VM in which to test Bugzilla ourselves
    • This will speed-up the 2nd half of migration and after-migration tasks

PENDING ITEM: Bibisect Repositories

  • ACTION: Make combined bibisect repo available for testing (Robinson) + Provide better docs
  • ACTION: Provide documentation for mac bibisect on wiki (Robinson)

To review:

  • Robinson working on bibisect docs
  • IDEA: Add bibisect into regular Developer workflow
  • IDEA: Create graph/tool to show which builds contain a given commit

PENDING ITEM: GUI for Bibisect

  • ACTION: Joel will ask people to test the Windows Bibisect GUI
  • ACTION: Investigate what is causing the huge increase in size (Florian R.)

PENDING ITEM: Feedback pages

  • ACTION: Sophie will shepherd native-lang versions of Feedback page

To review:

  • Feedback page in new mockup
  • NL versions (bug #?)


  • ACTION: We'll wait and see if the Fresh vs. Stable (esque) language ends up in the updater (Robinson)
  • ACTION: Investigate auto-updates for regular users and/or for QA/testing purposes (Robinson)
    • (Note: Push PPA for Ubuntu; similar for RH/rpm-based systems?)

PENDING ITEM: QA Input into website redesign

  • ACTION: Sophie/Robinson - Keep QA in the loop re: updates to QA pages

Website Redesign:

PENDING ITEM: Start Center and Sidebar Concerns

  • ACTION: Continue to watch Start Center/Sidebar until a11y concerns addressed (Robinson)

Relevant tracker bugs:

PENDING ITEM: Introduction video to LibreOffice QA

  • ACTION: Mock something up/have something to show at a future QA Meeting (Robinson, Joren)

PENDING ITEM: Planning Regular QA Events

  • ACTION: Joel will come up with a timeframe for future Bug Hunting Sessions/Triage Contests, with rationale.
    • Let's try to have an event every 6 months

PENDING ITEM: Daily builds for all platforms

  • ACTION: Robinson will take point on making sure we get daily builds for win/mac/linux
  • ACTION: Write a script to make sure builds are being produced daily! (Robinson)

Long-term/Frozen Pending Items

These are long-term or frozen items (i.e. on ice until something else happens) that we don't want to forget about...

PENDING ITEM: Update the whiteboard/keywords page

  • ACTION: Joel will turn this into an EasyHack and work on it (slowly)

PENDING ITEM: Most Annoying Bug List

  • ACTION: Joel will propose stricter guidelines for what qualifies as a MAB

To review:

  • How is the test going? (using the 'Priority' field in Bugzilla)


PENDING ITEM: What to do with FDO bugs filed against Extensions, Templates

  • ACTION: Joel will continue to monitor the situation

PENDING ITEM: Talk to CS Department/others at University

  • ACTION: Put up a message on the message board at his University and see who is interested (Joel)


  • ACTION: USA involvement in hackfests -- (Keep on the agenda, discuss on QA list) (All)
  • ACTION: Joel will respond to planning email (for Penn) and help shape what we can/want to do
  • ACTION: Robinson will check-in with OpenHatch/Deb Nichols to investigate partnership
  • ACTION: Follow-up with all of the people I met at SCALE re:possible hackfests/events (Robinson)

New Action Items

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New Items (Proposed/Discussed at the Meeting)

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  • ANNOUNCEMENT: Our next meeting will take place... March 24th (Monday) at 19:30 UTC, unless otherwise noted on the QA/Mailing List (which may happen).


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